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Great game

To be honest, I thought Liverpool would win, and probably because I was resigned to that, I actually really enjoyed watching the game today. Didn't feel stressed, although did get frustrated with City's inability to score from the chances that we created.

Just couldn't help but feel that whenever City had a chance, it was more a feeling of hope that it would lead to a goal, whereas when Liverpool created a chance, I was almost expecting them to score.

Liverpool, to their credit, were ruthless, and they put the game to bed by scoring two superb goals with pretty much their first two chances of the game.

Yes it's a contentious issue that led to the first goal. But I can't get past the fact that had the ball not hit Silva's hand, then it wouldn't have gone anywhere near Trent's hand. But credit has to go to Liverpool's reaction. Aguero for example went looking for the referee to contest the decision not to give a penalty, while Liverpool's players got on with the game. Play to the whistle or moan about a decision that you know won't be overturned anyway? I know which choice I would prefer the players of the club I support to make.

And it was a great strike by Fabinho.

Liverpool thoroughly deserved their win today. But I thought City played really well and dominated large parts of the game. Both teams can take a lot out of that game. City for the chances they created, and Liverpool for how they stood firm against those chances. And like I said at the start of this post, Liverpool looked far more likely to score with their chances, which just shows how ruthless they can be.

The difference was really all over the pitch. Liverpool's defence dealt with our attacks much better than our defence dealt with theirs. Liverpool's attack was much more ruthless than our attack was. And in midfield, while we looked good in possession, Liverpool dealt with our threats and closed us down superbly.

Don't feel too despondent. Just a really enjoyable game of football, played in a great spirit, a few niggles here and there, but overall a great advert for the premier league.

Still early in the season, and plenty of time for twists and turns. But we do have to pick it up results wise. 25% of our games lost so far, which irrespective of how good the other title challengers may be, is a ratio that will never be good enough to win the league.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Winston is always right and he has nice balls (U1721)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
TOOR, it was explained to you last week about why the lines had moved.

But as I’ve said, you’d rather come up with this elaborate story about referees being corrupt than simply accept VAR doesn’t make offsides as clear cut as you would have had us believe.

You thought it was offside. They didn’t.
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No it wasn't. It was however explained to you why they moved and then why they changed which line was for which player and why they drew a dotted line.
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Yes it was. You are mistaking different colour lines and not understanding the process they follow.

The fact that you’d deduced they came to the wrong decision and therefore the only explanation is that they’re corrupt is incredible.

You will find any excuse to avoid admitting you made a mistake.
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No it wasn't. You refused to explain it. Said you couldn't post photos etc.

If you could open your mind, watch the replay of what he did, see how he changed which line was for which player and kept moving it until he could show one colour was past the other, then drew a diagonal dotted line, you may learn something.

Until then you'll be stuck in your ways, refusing to believe that referees have been told by PGMOL to do things which shows them in a better light, despite retired referees stating this very thing happens.

What mistake did I make? I didn't move the lines, change what line was for which player and draw a diagonal dotted line.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Winston is always right and he has nice balls (U1721)

If I can open my mind?



I told you that you need to look up how the colour of the lines change when they're locked in and how up to that point, they will be moved around.

I told you to consider how the centre of gravity affects the decision making process.

You haven't researched anything, have you?

Why? Because you have an entrenched view and there isn't a single subject discussed where you are able to deviate from your view in the slightest.

This is yet more evidence of that.

VAR comes to a different conclusion than you. Options:

1. You were wrong that VAR is clear cut for offsides.

2. You were right and the officials are corrupt.

As I said - it's laughable.

The mistake you made was to believe that

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

If that's what you believe, then fine. I don't. I'm happy to agree to disagree.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Winston is always right and he has nice balls (U1721)
posted 42 seconds ago
If that's what you believe, then fine. I don't. I'm happy to agree to disagree.
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It's not what I believe, it's what has happened.

I don't think you realise how stupid you look.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston is always right and he has nice balls (U1721)
posted 42 seconds ago
If that's what you believe, then fine. I don't. I'm happy to agree to disagree.
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It's not what I believe, it's what has happened.

I don't think you realise how stupid you look.
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I do realise, I stated it with my comment.

I accept that. It's still what I, amongst many others, including retired professionals, former players and referees, believe.

He manipulated the lines. It was obvious to me.

If you don't believe that, that's fine. As I said, I can agree to disagree. I know you can't and therefore will keep going on, so I'll leave this now.

Enjoy.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)

Can you point me to the quotes of referees who have accused the officials of being corrupt in this specific case, please?

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

"As I said, I can agree to disagree. I know you can't and therefore will keep going on"

That's not good enough, TOOR.

You can't just make something up and then hide behind an opinion - your opinion needs to be logical, and it isn't.

There's something really quite strange about you in that you just cannot ever admit when you might have made a mistake. It's bizarre.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Haven't read the thread yet, but agree with the OP that the reaction to the first incident was appalling in terms of professionalism, and goals have been chalked of if a handball occurs in the build up like Bernardos
Few things I didn't like sneaky shoves from TAA on Sterling, one on Aguero as well when he shot wide,that should of been a penalty,
Robertsons stupid smirk after shoving Walker was very annoying as well,
Poor result and the line up was wrong ,
I assume Mendy needed a rest because he should of played if fit ,and Fernandinho is not a better defender than Otamendi,could of moved Fernandinho into midfield dropped Gundogan and played a better set up to protect Bravo who is quite small for a keeper these days,Mahrez also played well at Anfield last time out so Bernardo could of played more central and harried them like a terrier nipping at their ankles,and treading on their toes

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Seems Clattenburg agrees with me. Opinions.

Clattenburg argued: "There were strong suggestions at the time that the effort should be disallowed and a penalty awarded to Manchester City because Trent Alexander-Arnold had handled at the other end moments before the goal.

"However, it is the arm of Manchester City forward Bernardo Silva that deflects the ball onto Alexander-Arnold and that is why, for me, play should not be brought back.

"If Silva's arm does not divert the ball, then yes, I believe a penalty should have been awarded as Alexander-Arnold's arm is in an unnatural position and he is using it to make himself bigger.

"That is why I do not understand the Premier League explanation that it was not a deliberate handball."

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 37 minutes ago
Seems Clattenburg agrees with me. Opinions.

Clattenburg argued: "There were strong suggestions at the time that the effort should be disallowed and a penalty awarded to Manchester City because Trent Alexander-Arnold had handled at the other end moments before the goal.

"However, it is the arm of Manchester City forward Bernardo Silva that deflects the ball onto Alexander-Arnold and that is why, for me, play should not be brought back.

"If Silva's arm does not divert the ball, then yes, I believe a penalty should have been awarded as Alexander-Arnold's arm is in an unnatural position and he is using it to make himself bigger.

"That is why I do not understand the Premier League explanation that it was not a deliberate handball."
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Yes, looks like the nonsense around not understanding what deliberate handball actually is has infested referees as well.

The game has gone mad, no question.

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