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The Heir to Messi & Ronaldo

Are we going to get one anytime soon? You look at all the possible contenders and they all leave you with more questions than answers. I watch all of them be it Mane (27), Salah (27), Neymar (27), Mbappe (20), Sterling (24)

I don't know who I have left out but I dont look at any one of them and think they will even come close to reaching the ability of Messi or Ronaldo. Thats just by looking at them play. When you introduce stats then its actually not even a debate.

http://messivsronaldo.net/all-time-stats/

A quick look at each players all time stats and its insane what these 2 have achieved.

Messi has an eye popping 612 goals in 698 appearances for club and 680 from 834 for club and country (excluding club friendlies*)

Ronaldo has 607 from 818 in club appearances and 702 from 980 for club and country (excluding club friendlies*)

I love Mbappe but even given his age and talent I dont think Mbappe will even come close to that.

I feel lately we have been so desperate to see other players take over these 2 and for some that means downgrading their achievements but its funny how when you comb through the evidence even based on current ability with them 2 aging, nobody really stands out.

It will be a very long time until we see a footballer even come close to these 2, very long time.

P.S Just to add

Messi has 236 assists in 698 appearances
Ronaldo has 192 assists in 818 apperances

posted on 12/11/19

Ronaldo > Messi

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 13 minutes ago
Ronaldo even getting mentioned in the same breath as Messi is laughable.

The title should be heir to Messi, Ronaldo was barely better than Robben or Van Persie and other players of similar level.
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Nope he is most definitely better than those 2. You can argue he isn't as good as Messi but the reason he is mentioned in the same breath as Messi is because of his stats and records over the last 10 years.
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Pretty sure I just said he's better than those two , but they aren't miles from his level, where as Messi is and has been levels above Ronaldo, does things on the football pitch that Ronaldo could only dream of....

posted on 12/11/19

comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 13 minutes ago
Ronaldo even getting mentioned in the same breath as Messi is laughable.

The title should be heir to Messi, Ronaldo was barely better than Robben or Van Persie and other players of similar level.
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Nope he is most definitely better than those 2. You can argue he isn't as good as Messi but the reason he is mentioned in the same breath as Messi is because of his stats and records over the last 10 years.
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Pretty sure I just said he's better than those two, but they aren't miles from his level, where as Messi is and has been levels above Ronaldo, does things on the football pitch that Ronaldo could only dream of....
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Ronaldo does things Messi could only dream of.

posted on 12/11/19

comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 8 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 13 minutes ago
Ronaldo even getting mentioned in the same breath as Messi is laughable.

The title should be heir to Messi, Ronaldo was barely better than Robben or Van Persie and other players of similar level.
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Nope he is most definitely better than those 2. You can argue he isn't as good as Messi but the reason he is mentioned in the same breath as Messi is because of his stats and records over the last 10 years.
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Pretty sure I just said he's better than those two, but they aren't miles from his level, where as Messi is and has been levels above Ronaldo, does things on the football pitch that Ronaldo could only dream of....
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Ronaldo does things Messi could only dream of.
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Not sure which football game you've been watching. But go ahead and list the things Ronaldo can do but Messi cant, this should be good

posted on 12/11/19

comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 8 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 13 minutes ago
Ronaldo even getting mentioned in the same breath as Messi is laughable.

The title should be heir to Messi, Ronaldo was barely better than Robben or Van Persie and other players of similar level.
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Nope he is most definitely better than those 2. You can argue he isn't as good as Messi but the reason he is mentioned in the same breath as Messi is because of his stats and records over the last 10 years.
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Pretty sure I just said he's better than those two, but they aren't miles from his level, where as Messi is and has been levels above Ronaldo, does things on the football pitch that Ronaldo could only dream of....
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Ronaldo does things Messi could only dream of.
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Not sure which football game you've been watching. But go ahead and list the things Ronaldo can do but Messi cant, this should be good
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1. Say he’s scored in the Premier League
2. Say he’s scored in Serie A
3. Say he’s scored on a miserable afternoon at Boro

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 8 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 13 minutes ago
Ronaldo even getting mentioned in the same breath as Messi is laughable.

The title should be heir to Messi, Ronaldo was barely better than Robben or Van Persie and other players of similar level.
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Nope he is most definitely better than those 2. You can argue he isn't as good as Messi but the reason he is mentioned in the same breath as Messi is because of his stats and records over the last 10 years.
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Pretty sure I just said he's better than those two, but they aren't miles from his level, where as Messi is and has been levels above Ronaldo, does things on the football pitch that Ronaldo could only dream of....
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Ronaldo does things Messi could only dream of.
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Not sure which football game you've been watching. But go ahead and list the things Ronaldo can do but Messi cant, this should be good
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1. Say he’s scored in the Premier League
2. Say he’s scored in Serie A
3. Say he’s scored on a miserable afternoon at Boro
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4. Led his country to international glory (Euro 2016)
5. Blast free-kicks/shots in from 40+ yards

Ronaldo has a lot of attributes Messi does not have, Messi is more dependent on the team around him, Ronaldo is more sheer explosive individual brilliance.

Ronaldo > Messi.

posted on 12/11/19

Think you're talking about Rooney mate. Blasts them in from way further out than Ronaldo. Tracks back. Ronaldo doesn't. Can play in midfield, number 10, number 9, quarter back and left back. Rooney has loads of attributes that Ronaldo does not and has done it in more than one continent and not just stuck in his comfort zone in Europe like Ronaldo has. Ronaldo can only attack. Rooney can do everything. He is a better all round player than Ronaldo.

posted on 12/11/19

posted on 12/11/19

sure he is, that's why Rooney has forever been in the global debate of who is the best player in the World. Ronaldo & Messi have no chance

posted on 12/11/19

Hard to argue against Rooney being a more complete footballer though. Could play anywhere, up top, in midfield, Ive even seen him in goal. Could Messi play anywhere? Couldnt even leave Barca.

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