It’s not for me to comment on anyone outside our club, team, squad, manager, staff who, to date have been unbelievable. Eight points in front of Chelsea/Leicester and nine in front of City, three absolutely fantastic goals against them, especially Fabinho’s but the goals from Mo and Sadio, and in turn the assists given to them by Andrew and Hendo were as good as it gets.
But, returning to Pep. Having watched the highlight of the game, in the 83rd minute, he loses the plot. Completely and utterly. Totally demented, claiming two non-existent penalties, reaching the stage where the men in the white coats would be forced to respond and take control of him.
I’m all for open enthusiasm, Jurgen takes some beating on that score, but Guardiola lost control of himself, a lack not brought under control when he thanked Michael Oliver and the linesmen, completely over the top, dripping with sarcasm that fooled no one.
The Reds spanked them, proper, but they need to remind themselves its only a football game.
It begs the question though: four years at the club, Pep will be hankering (especially after Sunday) to move on again.
I wonder who will take his place in the summer?
Poor Pep
posted on 12/11/19
We’ve all seen refs making shockers of decisions, time and again. Oliver, for me, the top ref in the game, was right on the spot when the ball struck TAA’s hand, and instantly decided it wasn’t a penalty.
His decision, he was the ref. Same again when Sterling kicked the ball, in the penalty box in the closing minutes and struck Trent. Again, Oliver was right on the spot. His decision, he was the ref, no penalty, move on.
posted on 12/11/19
Pep showed no class frankly...
He's better than that
Needs to take City to the CL win....or for me he's failed...despite the domestic treble
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 38 minutes ago
Pep showed no class frankly...
He's better than that
Needs to take City to the CL win....or for me he's failed...despite the domestic treble
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He's not better though. He's proved it time and again how bad a loser he is.
He's got to get his side right for cl. Laporte back.
posted on 12/11/19
So if Jurgen throws a fit he's 'passionate', if Pep does likewise he 'lacks class'.
Glad we've sorted that one out.
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 4 minutes ago
I can see why he lost the plot after not been given the first handball, which imo was a penalty every day of the week.
I do think if City win the CL, he'll be off for a new adventure.
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I thought we'd already established that given the current ruling, a penalty could not be given as the handball from Silva could not have contributed to the giving of a penalty.
Therefore, we get the advantage, not City.
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The current ruling on attacking players handling the ball only applies to an eventual goal. A penalty is NOT a goal so Bernardo Silva’s hand ball was irrelevant as Oliver did not seem it to be a hand ball.
I’m struggling to understand why people can’t understand this simple aspect of the game.
A penalty is not a goal, and the laws only refer to an actual goal unless some people here think a penalty is the same as a goal
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There’s a reason you’re struggling to understand. It’s because you’re Incorrect. The rule now relates to offensive handballs which don’t just apply to direct goals but also the creation of and the leading to goals and they don’t have to be deliberate.
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No, this is wrong (and why the pgmol didn’t reference it at all). Silva’s handball didn’t lead to a goal or a goalscoring chance, as the next action was TAAs handball and it was that that would have caused the penalty. Silva’s would have been assessed exactly the same as TAAs was, I.e. was it deliberate. Oliver deemed neither were, so it was play on.
posted on 13/11/19
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 14 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 4 minutes ago
I can see why he lost the plot after not been given the first handball, which imo was a penalty every day of the week.
I do think if City win the CL, he'll be off for a new adventure.
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I thought we'd already established that given the current ruling, a penalty could not be given as the handball from Silva could not have contributed to the giving of a penalty.
Therefore, we get the advantage, not City.
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The current ruling on attacking players handling the ball only applies to an eventual goal. A penalty is NOT a goal so Bernardo Silva’s hand ball was irrelevant as Oliver did not seem it to be a hand ball.
I’m struggling to understand why people can’t understand this simple aspect of the game.
A penalty is not a goal, and the laws only refer to an actual goal unless some people here think a penalty is the same as a goal
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There’s a reason you’re struggling to understand. It’s because you’re Incorrect. The rule now relates to offensive handballs which don’t just apply to direct goals but also the creation of and the leading to goals and they don’t have to be deliberate.
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No, this is wrong (and why the pgmol didn’t reference it at all). Silva’s handball didn’t lead to a goal or a goalscoring chance, as the next action was TAAs handball and it was that that would have caused the penalty. Silva’s would have been assessed exactly the same as TAAs was, I.e. was it deliberate. Oliver deemed neither were, so it was play on.
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It doesnt make sense, the new rule is "Any goal scored or created with the use of the hand or arm will be disallowed this season, even if it is accidental," says the Premier League. if you score from a penalty given as a result of the use of hand it'd have to be disallowed surely? It says any goal, penalties come under this too right?
posted on 13/11/19
BS handball would have lead to a goal or goalscoring chance if the ref had given a penalty. VAR would surely then have to overrule it and pull it back as a FK to Liverpool?
posted on 13/11/19
It isn’t as a result of the use of the hand though, that’s the point. If Silvas handball caused TAAs handball then it wouldn’t be a penalty as it’s accidental and nothing TAA could have done about it.
If it was deemed that TAA deliberately handled it, then again Silvas handball didn’t cause it, it was TAAs own actions that did.
Had the ball missed TAA completely and gone straight to sterling who scored, it would have been disallowed as the handball led directly to it.
posted on 13/11/19
BS handball?
It faintly touched his arm, he didn’t stick his hand out to gain advantage
posted on 13/11/19
Pep has done a good job but his primary remit was to deliver the CL. It's a tough trophy to win and it looks like this year or bust for him
Silva handball, TAA handball. It's done. Liverpool got the win, that's all that counts
The VAR situation is completely bizarre. Let the ref have another look at an incident and then get on with it. All VAR needs to say is to ask the ref to have a look at it. That won't take anymore time than current. This messing about is ridiculous