Vieira warns against Unai sacking,

Some people may be pining after Ozil, I am certainly not one of them. This does however make more sense now, you've seen people be angry about Emery's handling of Ozil and then gone on a massive assumption that this is peoples problem.... but that isn't linked to how most people feel about Emery at all.

For the record I would love to see Ozil shipped out, his wages are a detriment to the club, hampering potential negotiations with other players and of course simply taking huge amounts of money of the club for very little return.

The issues with Emery go so far beyond that it's barely even relevant in the grand scheme of things. He's a tactical shambles, there's no direction, no improvement in any area, nothing to get interested in. Yes we got to the Europa final beating Napoli and Valencia, that's not too shabby but FFS that's 4 games where we did well enough to beat decent sides albeit ones operating on a fraction of our budget. Then when we came up against a side on a more equal standing we got destroyed anyway (having bottled an easy league run in for fourth).

*firm no. We would not still have no CL footy

So 31 games to 3rd was just dumb luck? No I see people's problem. We're not winning. And even when we do it's not pretty like Arsene's teams done it. The general over arching “Not pleased with Emery” I get. Largely stopped defending him for dumb stuff. However I object to anyone using last season to justify their case necause last season he was a debut foreign manager who dragged his weak squad to unexected CL qualification. Only to have his highest paid player let him, the rest pf the team and the Arsenal fans down.

Whether you like how he done it or not, doesn't change the fact that up until Ozil flopped we were in a 3rd place that every Gooner would have bitten your arm off for at the start of the season and few to none cared HOW we'd gotten there.

Nobody would be saying a word about last season had Ozil done his job. And right now peeps would just be mad about this seasons 12 games. I admit I recall you've never liked him. But plenty I see screeching for his sacking. Never had sh!t to say about last season...last season. They were happy enough, just feeling sick because we all knew deep down it was over when Ramsey got injured. So it bugs me when I see those people now posting crap about last season. And the lack of fan backlash against Ozil for his pitiful showing utterly disgusts me. Seeing Arsenal fans actually saying he should play in the shirt again after seeing what he done last season. Whilst simultaneously claiming we should sack the manager. The mind boggles at just how these people wanna be so ruthless with the manager who got lumbered yet seem to have limitless forgiveness for the superstar leech who's bleeding their supposed beloved club dry. Dude neen a for for years before Emery arrived, fecks us last season too. And we should play him but sack butvsackthe manager.

You scruttocks I just disagree with. I believe he should get until the window. But as for most. They just fulla crap Wenger brats, spitting their dummies because this is coach no 1. Proving them all full of sh!t when they were giving it Wenger Out, he's an idiot, anyone could do better. They're all just mad because Emery is proving just how dumb they were for thinking that. Actually don't know why they're all rushy rushy. Another failure after this and they'll truly be branded idiots. Not to mention probably feeling incredibly dumb too.

The fact that you think all of Arsenal's woes are solely Özil's fault is why I can't with you. That you think I am somehow his biggest supporter and forgetful of his flaws is ridiculous. I said above "For all his flaws" as a summary because I wasn't about to waste time talking about him... he's not the point of the conversation.

And then that rambling about how good Emery was and how he's only screwed up THIS season?! Wow. Just wow...

How is being 3rd part way through season even a thing? A season is 38 games long and we finished right about where our performances led us. That's a season with United, Spurs and Chelsea all performing terribly.

Also, this has nothing to do with Wenger either, i've not read anyone comparing him to AW.
He's doing chit all on his own, we can all see that and the fact that you are trying to pin it on 1 PLAYER only, is madness imo.

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 4 hours, 28 minutes ago
Also, this has nothing to do with Wenger either, i've not read anyone comparing him to AW.
He's doing chit all on his own, we can all see that and the fact that you are trying to pin it on 1 PLAYER only, is madness imo.
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Only pinning last seasons failure to reach CL on Ozil for context of this debate. Ozil blew last season, Emery stuffing this one up. Ergo, if you're one saying “Sack him” then that HAS to be a stance of. “He's been rubbish this season sack him.” Few want to do that necause considering just this season. Easy to argue sacking someone after 12 games is harsh to dumb. So SOME people (not scruttocks, think he actually wanted him gone by xmas last year) are very shadily IMO, now attempting to cite last season. For them, just because it sounds better if you say “He's been awful the entire time” So I say using last season to beef case is BS unless you were saying sack him last season. Most weren't though. Were too busy enjoying the prospect of CL again and wondering how the feck we had any shot at all still, come game 25 let alone 31.

Anyone happy at game 31 (as the vast majority were from what I saw) has no business mentioning last year as evidence to sack him. Because last years evidence shows (whether you like how he done it or not) that he does indeed have the ability to get us to CL. And I say that based on the fact the results he got and table at the time had us there. That didn't change until Ozil replaced Ramsey.

It's not Emery is no problem and Ozil is to blame for all. It's Emery's looking bad this season but last season was pulling a miracle out his ass until Ramsey could go no longer and he was forced to use Ozil. Dunno why people are trying to pretend that Ozil disappearing whilst playing instead of Ramsey for that last 7, had no baring on the failure blamed on Emery. Course it did and all of you know it. Because as I said, we all knew deep down it was over the minute we saw Ramsey was out of those 7 games. Same way we're all pretty sure that had Ramsey stayed fit. CL was a given and it was a simple matter of 3rd automatic or 4th and an extra game to get there. Ozil and his weakass disappearing sh!t cost us 2 places and fecked up CL. NOT the manager being rubbish all season. You all watched the boy not play. Barely done a dam thing. Couldn't even throw in 2 efforts against smaller sides, to play CL (don't care does he, HE'S getting CL superstar cash whether we make it or not). Blame for that lays squarely at the players feet. Manager had it covered til he had to use that

If Özil is the problem, so is Pepe, and Torreira, and the central defence. And Emery oversees them and so is at least as culpable as all of them if not more.

I expect the team will stay with the setup for the Leicester game. Bellerin and/or Tierney in for Chambers and/or Kolasinac and the side staying that way a while, bringing improve results overall with it. I'm not as bothered as everyone else seems to be. Not so much freat faith in Emery as “Meh, they'll all snap out of the funk soon enough.” I'm not going mad about it before xmas though.

"I'm not as bothered as everyone else seems to be."

HA!!!!!