Why Was He Free?

Interesting thread but I cant see why being a socialist means that you automatically become a liberal softie.

Firstly I am a socialist but not a Corbyn fan or supporter nor would I ever consider voting for him.

Secondly anybody trying to justify it because of our foreign policy is an idiot, if people have a problem with those policies then why dont they attack the people who make them rather than innocent everyday of the week people?

The death sentence, I am totally opposed to that purely because I think anybody that kills and knows he is going to die will just go and kill anybody that has ever offended them just for the hell of it before he gets caught.

Tougher jail sentences definitely, thrown out of the country after your jail sentence if you are foreign then definitely.

As for shooting the guy I see that quite simply, he killed innocent people so him being shot causes me no problem whatsoever although I think of a bit of torture and terror beforehand like he dished out would have been far more suitable, well you cant have everything that you want.

As is said "if you live by the sword then you die by the sword" and for me I have no problem with that at all.

I am no liberal softie in any way whatsoever but racism has no place in society. To condemn people purely on race or religion is plain stupidity.

As for religion, well I have very little time for that either personally but if others want to believe thats fine by me, just dont think that it gives you reason or licence to kill.

comment by Roberto Tomkins (U1116)
posted 42 minutes ago
Lots of excuses on this thread
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It's a state of mind, always something, or someone else to blame.

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
A convicted terrorist serves 6 years and then is freed , yet the likes of say the Kray twins whom only killed two gangsters served life sentances.
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Agree with the first part but the second bit about the Krays is so ridiculous
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Just trying to give an example Palmers the Krays to a certain extent were Terrorist , they ruled through fear , yet to the best of everyone’s knowledge killed 2 people and were given live , this sack of shat got out in 6 years and was trying to get together his own army.

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
A convicted terrorist serves 6 years and then is freed , yet the likes of say the Kray twins whom only killed two gangsters served life sentances.
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Agree with the first part but the second bit about the Krays is so ridiculous
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Just trying to give an example Palmersthe Krays to a certain extent were Terrorist , they ruled through fear , yet to the best of everyone’s knowledge killed 2 people and were given live , this sack of shat got out in 6 years and was trying to get together his own army.
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They are just reporting on the news that the parole board didn’t even review his case and he was automatically released.

I think he was shot because of the suicide belt. could have been real and killed more. Of course, he knew he would be killed and so become a martyr and potentially create more terrorists. These people are pure evil.

comment by It's Champion's League Final day (U22023)
posted 16 seconds ago
I think he was shot because of the suicide belt. could have been real and killed more.
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Of course.

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
A convicted terrorist serves 6 years and then is freed , yet the likes of say the Kray twins whom only killed two gangsters served life sentances.
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Agree with the first part but the second bit about the Krays is so ridiculous
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Just trying to give an example Palmersthe Krays to a certain extent were Terrorist , they ruled through fear , yet to the best of everyone’s knowledge killed 2 people and were given live , this sack of shat got out in 6 years and was trying to get together his own army.
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Sorry mate didn’t mean to sound like I was mocking you. Appreciate your reasoning

The argument about this attack being a response to western foreign policy is total nonsense as well. There are many countries where the west hasn’t got involved in or involvement has been minimal (Pakistan, Indonesia etc) that have bred terrorists. Totally apologetic to blame western foreign policy for this.

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
A convicted terrorist serves 6 years and then is freed , yet the likes of say the Kray twins whom only killed two gangsters served life sentances.
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Agree with the first part but the second bit about the Krays is so ridiculous
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Just trying to give an example Palmersthe Krays to a certain extent were Terrorist , they ruled through fear , yet to the best of everyone’s knowledge killed 2 people and were given live , this sack of shat got out in 6 years and was trying to get together his own army.
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Sorry mate didn’t mean to sound like I was mocking you. Appreciate your reasoning

The argument about this attack being a response to western foreign policy is total nonsense as well. There are many countries where the west hasn’t got involved in or involvement has been minimal (Pakistan, Indonesia etc) that have bred terrorists. Totally apologetic to blame western foreign policy for this.
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Spot on

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 6 hours, 3 minutes ago

You are right that Islam has many good points and was at the forefront of many things, women's rights being one of them.

I have tried to distance Muslims from Islam, or the ideology from the people for exactly the point you later raise. I don't hate/dislike Muslims at all, but I am very dubious when it comes to beliefs and the extreme those beliefs become when they become grouped.
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Which is a legitimate concern. However, as highlighted in my earlier post, virtually every major religion can be, has been, and even today is interpreted in extreme ways. I am an atheist myself, but atheism or at the very least an extreme dislike or hatred of organised religion has also been used an excuse to purge and murder innocent people.

Bottom line is that it's not the religion itself that's malicious, it's the radical elements who choose to interpret it in extreme ways who are the problem.

Even today, Christian fundamentalists use their interpretation of the scriptures to justify their murders. The fact that we do not try to blame and marginalize all Christians for the acts of the few is probably one of the reasons that Christian fundamentalist terrorism is not even more widespread.

We really do ourselves no favours if we fall into the extremist/terrorist trap and broadside the entire religious community making it responsible for those interpretations, because if we do it's almost certain to push more and more people away from 'us' and towards 'them'.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
A convicted terrorist serves 6 years and then is freed , yet the likes of say the Kray twins whom only killed two gangsters served life sentances.
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Agree with the first part but the second bit about the Krays is so ridiculous
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Just trying to give an example Palmersthe Krays to a certain extent were Terrorist , they ruled through fear , yet to the best of everyone’s knowledge killed 2 people and were given live , this sack of shat got out in 6 years and was trying to get together his own army.
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They are just reporting on the news that the parole board didn’t even review his case and he was automatically released.
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Fackin hell