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Tories. The sensible party.

It is truly remarkable how this Tory government, the Tories being the party of sensible business and blah blah blah, are taking the most extraordinary decisions, which will impact our countries, its economy and its wellbeing for decades to come, are making these decisions without any knowledge of its impact whatsoever.

How much will a No Deal Brexit cost the UK? F*ck knows, but we might do it anyway, and are spending 8 billion preparing for it.

What will be the economic impact of Boris Brexit deal? Will an economic impact analyses be made by the Treasury? God no, it is self evident Boris Brexit deal is better than no deal, which - by the way - we don't know will cost our country what exactly, but who cares? Only traitors to the democratic will of the people. Are you a traitor????

Here is a report from the civil service about the impact of the border in Boris deal on NI. You haven't read it?? B*gger off, we the government have had enough of experts, like the people have, and just want Brexit done so we can concentrate on reducing taxes for our billionaire friends erm reducing taxes. It is clear that the people want Boris deal, of which we also haven't read an impact analyses (hahaha, because we didn't make one), because it is self evident that Boris deal is better than No deal, of which we don't know how much it will cost, but which we might still want next year.


It is official. We aren't just a laughing stock to the rest of the world anymore. We are now even beyond that.

posted on 6/12/19

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hillary-clinton-britain-is-on-the-path-to-fascism-cffskmk90

posted on 6/12/19


According to a CNN scoop, the official in the British embassy in Washington responsible for matters relating to Brexit, Alexandra Hall Hall, has quit. Hall Hall was a career diplomat and CNN quotes from her resignation letter, which it says was widely circulated among diplomats. In it she said:

I have been increasingly dismayed by the way in which our political leaders have tried to deliver Brexit, with reluctance to address honestly, even with our own citizens, the challenges and trade-offs which Brexit involves; the use of misleading or disingenuous arguments about the implications of the various options before us; and some behaviour towards our institutions, which, were it happening in another country, we would almost certainly as diplomats have received instructions to register our concern.
It makes our job to promote democracy and the rule of law that much harder, if we are not seen to be upholding these core values at home ...
I am also at a stage in life where I would prefer to do something more rewarding with my time, than peddle half-truths on behalf of a government I do not trust.

comment by Tyke (U9181)

posted on 6/12/19

Brexit is for cretins.

posted on 6/12/19

posted on 6/12/19

This forum has become unreadable due to low information lefties.

posted on 6/12/19

A liberal tory party starting a fascist regime?? You need mental help

posted on 6/12/19

comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 11 minutes ago
A liberal tory party starting a fascist regime?? You need mental help
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Liberal my behind. A nasty Tory party, not starting a fascist regime, but if you read my comments using fascist tricks to get more power, and take it away from us and the judicial system.

posted on 6/12/19

comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 15 minutes ago
This forum has become unreadable due to low information lefties.
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Been a conservative in Holland for the last 20 years before I moved to the UK. If I could vote here, I would vote for people like Grieve or Gauke. Former conservatives with a soul who have become independent.

But I am sure you can explain why people voting against this Boris government is a sign of being a low information lefty.

posted on 6/12/19

This country, like the forum is completely and utterly divided by vast opinions and differences. Football is about the only thing the country seems to agree on.

posted on 7/12/19

comment by There are some who call me......footballer of nowhere (U7708)
posted 12 hours, 54 minutes ago

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 9 minutes ago
The word fascist has been severely diluted by the hysterical Twitterati.
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No it hasn’t.

Let’s call things as they are.
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Not saying the Tories are aiming to become a fascist regime, and will prepare trains for EU citizens at all. Let that be very clear. But it is clear they are trying to increase their power and control, and they actually are copying tactics used by the fascist regimes of old.

It starts by creating a general enemy, who you claim is responsible for all your own failings. In this case the EU. Gets the blame for low wages (didn't notice that ever in Holland), too many foreigners, an NHS in crisis, poverty in the north etc etc).

Then you start spreading lies/untruths about the enemy. Because of the EU we cannot control our borders and immigration (lie: EU laws allow to send back any citizen of other member state that doesn't have work after 3 months or is self sufficient. UK government too lazy to do that.). Or we will have to bail out Greece / Italy / Spain. Lie: by EU law only Euro countries will bail out other euro countries through special fund. EU gives unnecessary red tape (hello iced kipper!), when it is actually UK red tape, or leaving EU will create even more red tape (irish border).


Make sure you control the media. 80% of media in hands of 5! billionaires, getting nice tax reductions from Tories, and Cameron appointed senior executives BBC (ex Tories).


Start blaming people who oppose you or want to scrutinize you (parliament, judges) of being traitors, enemies of the people, collaborators with the enemy (EU). They have actually been called this.

Start suppressing / ridiculing independent press / people who don't agree with you. Right now Daily Mirror banned from Tory party bus because a reporter wore a chicken costume. C4 being threatened with review of license after ice block, reported to Ofcom, and today after apologizing about people of colour mistake, saying that is why the government doesn't want anything to do with C4 because they are dangerously biased and making up false stories etc etc.


Next is start making up claims of what the people want. The people have had enough of experts (ignoring independent reports on Brexit consequenses). The people have had enough of interviews with the PM being interrupted. The people want THIS deal which delivers everything they want from Brexit.


And now comes the part that we should really really keep our eyes on, and which is the most dangerous one regarding losing some of rights and freedoms. It is page 48 of the Tory manifesto, which will basically give them a blank cheque to alter our rights, and the way parliament and the courts can scrutinize the PM and hold him to account:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tory-manifesto-conservative-boris-johnson-dictator-general-election-brexit-a9216861.html
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/labour-peer-and-barrister-accuses-tories-of-rewriting-constitution-1-6409002

Again, I am not saying the Tories will start a fascist regime. But it looks like they are trying to increase their hold over us in some pretty unsavoury ways, and I urge everyone to read page 48 of their manifesto, think what they could do with that, and vote against them!


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The python's squeeze gets tighter and tighter, meanwhile turkeys are voting for Christmas.

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