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For Those who Could not Attend

Team v Millwall Saturday Dec 14th 2019

Hamer, Bogle, Davies, Forsyth, Lowe.
Evans, Holmes, Knight
Lawrence, Martin. Waghorn
Substitutes. Wisdom, Roos. Bielic, Josefzoon, Malone, Dowell, Whitaker

Conditions: Bright sun and cold.
Pitch: Immaculate
Attendance. 26,272

Ref. Chris Kavanagh

We needed a cheering and confidence building win over an in-form Millwall today getting perhaps a bit of revenge for the manner of Rowett’s departure to Stoke. We needed to start hitting the target, scoring enough to eliminate all doubts and worry about a late equaliser and to recover something of a goal difference. And after a sad/happy memorium to Jim Smith, he would have been proud as the game got started.

Alas it was not to be, largely due to a spirited performance by Millwall and a lack of energy, urgency and organisation in the Derby team,

Unbeaten at PP for 9 games, Derby started well enough applying early pressure with a highish tempo. It was pretty even for a while with Knight doing well. Derby put themselves under pressure by committing silly fouls in dangerous areas - a common and dangerous fault these days, one which you would think the manager could correct by imposing a fine of £500 for each such offence. (Only joking) Though not from a dead ball situation, Bradshaw showed great skill to beat Forsyth and lashed in a goal of some beauty if you are GR. As many times before, our wing backs committed their usual errors after good approach work of really poor crosses. They also showed a severe lack of urgency. The way we played you would have thought we were two up rather than a goal behind. Gary Rowett will have been pleasantly surprised how easy it was to be outplaying his old team as he went in at half-time one goal to the good. Millwall were generally good value for their lead. Derby were poor with the crowd booing their team off the pitch. What is wrong with the attitude and work rate of Derby County players?

During the break there was at least one bit of good news. Sheffield Wednesday - fresh from being held 1-1 at PP, were beating Forest at the Schitty Ground 0 goals to 4. At the restart, Derby had been considerably enlivened. Breaking down the left, Knight passed to Lawrence (I think) and Waghorn missed when he ought to have scored. The game swung from end to end with Holmes striving to create something. Getting a few corners Derby hardly looked dangerous. When did we last score from a corner? Millwall defended well though Derby seemed to get closer and closer to scoring, putting more and more pressure on Millwall. Holmes’s long throws are increasingly being used though they seem to be a yard or too short to be really dangerous.

One has to say Hamer looked a little safer than Roos of late. The defence were not terrible. Bogle almost scored but the goalie just pushed it around the post. No Derby player excelled. There was a distinct lack of creativity and they never really looked like scoring. Our midfield never really got to grips and we really did not make a challenge though there was more urgency in the second half. In the end Millwall earned their point and Rowett went home feeling very happy with his visit to PP. One wonders why we ever took a loan of Dowell. He distinctly does not look like an Everton player. If only we could have got one of the quality of Leon Osman.
Boy! how we are missing Wilson, Tomori and Mount. Of course we are ever likely to miss such players. At the end Millwall cheated unashamedly to waste as much time as possible. They played more as a team than Derby did. There is an urgent need for change at PP. The team went off to Derby boos at the end.

posted on 15/12/19

Scouse, I don't know how to measure wanting the ball other than seeing them make just that bit more effort to win it. And at times Derby looked just a touch lethargic. I thought they did even more so against Sheffield Wed.


I also concede that I was feeling pretty downbeat as well and I concede it is possible to be a bit too critical just as when things are going well I can think we are better than we are. It was just my impression they didn't put in as much effort as Millwall.

posted on 15/12/19

Ramdini! For goodness sake.

Whatever our player/formation/tactical shortcomings - and there are clearly many.......the very leat we can expect is "effort".

The lack of which is inexcusable.

posted on 15/12/19

I feel the centre halves are key to how Cocu wants to play. He wants them to be ball players. Clearly he didn’t rate Davies initially as he left him completely out of the squad at the start of the season. Now it’s a case of needs must but Davies, though competent enough at the basics of heading and kicking it, hates having it at his feet. We can see it, the opposition knows it and it spreads nervousness. Forsyth has done OK considering everything but is also less than comfortable.

So does Cocu abandon his preferred style and play pragmatic football or does he keep faith with his ideals and hope we can muddle through until he gets in players who are better suited to it? At the moment he seems stuck between the two. I think he’ll be desperate for a footballing centre half in January who can link better with Bielik and maybe Huddlestone when he gets fit. The target is rumoured to be Rob Dickie at Oxford about whom I know nothing.

posted on 15/12/19

Rob Dickie. Hope he's no descendant of one of our maths teachers. Nasty old fascist, hope he died in agony.

posted on 15/12/19

I had a maths teacher who stamped on a bee one day for no reason other than it flew through the window into the classroom. He was a man of the cloth as well.

posted on 15/12/19

comment by Spart-Derby really are the best says red dog. (U4603)
posted 21 minutes ago
Rob Dickie. Hope he's no descendant of one of our maths teachers. Nasty old fascist, hope he died in agony.
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Careful Spart - you don't want to reveal your compassionate side

posted on 15/12/19

It was my compassionate side which made me hate him. He used to bully some of the kids who he knew were very passive. I stood up for one of them and he took me to the head master who of course took his side. Schools were always a hot bed of injustice. I did my best to make his life a misery after that, likewise he did with me.

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted on 15/12/19

Whilst I have no love for what appears to be today's "soft" approach, it's no doubt that there were some teachers back in my day who were nothing other than sadistic ba5tards.

posted on 15/12/19

The problem today is that parents take their kids’ sides against their teachers rather than supporting them. If I had done anything bad at school and my teachers told my parents then I would be in for it. Now the parents will march to the school and have it out with the teacher for daring to criticise their darling.

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted on 15/12/19

comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
The problem today is that parents take their kids’ sides against their teachers rather than supporting them. If I had done anything bad at school and my teachers told my parents then I would be in for it. Now the parents will march to the school and have it out with the teacher for daring to criticise their darling.
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I agree. If I was in trouble I prayed my dad didn't find out otherwise I'd get another clip round the ear.

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