Merry Xmas all! Even to those I’ve filtered
I thought Darren Fletcher did some good analysis on the BBC of the upcoming Liverpool game and I absolutely agree with him. Here is what he said about how Leicester need to copy what United did in their approach;
“Rodgers switched to a 4-4-2 diamond for his side's win over Aston Villa at the start of December, and that is one option for him again here.
Using a diamond against Liverpool would be a challenge, however. As I mentioned in this piece after the Villa game, that system leaves the opposition full-backs free to overload you down the flanks.
With respect to Villa, it is one thing to do it successfully against them; it is another for Leicester to try it against a team with two of the best full-backs on the planet.
The attacking threat and crossing ability of Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andy Robertson are among Liverpool's biggest strengths, and encouraging them forward would be a big risk.
So, maybe Rodgers will try something slightly different this time. I am surprised that, so far, no-one else has tried to replicate what Manchester United did when they held Liverpool at Old Trafford in October. It is something Leicester are capable of with the players they have.
Manchester United drew 1-1 with Liverpool on 20 October. United went with three centre-backs that day, to go man-for-man with the three Liverpool forwards. They also sent their wing-backs forward to push back Liverpool's full-backs, and used a pair of fast split strikers who played high and wide.
It worked, because United were able to hurt Liverpool on the transition by getting the ball forward quickly, and turning their defence. So far, they are the only team to take a point off the Reds this season.
Can Leicester do the same, as they go for the win? Well, we have seen them play with three at the back before, in the second half of their fightback to beat Everton on 1 December, and that switch also saw them play with two strikers.
If they do the same on Thursday, they could use Jamie Vardy and Kelechi Iheanacho in the same way Marcus Rashford and Daniel James were so effective for United - to exploit the spaces left behind the Liverpool full-backs, and isolate their centre-backs.“
IMO he has to go 3 at the back as Darren Fletcher says and basically match Liverpool’s 3 forwards. That’s exactly what United did and they used their fullbacks to pin Robertson and Arnold back.
4-1-4-1 could be a Man City sized disaster with Liverpool’s front 3 overloading our 2 centre backs on the counter and with Chilwell and Ricardo in no mans land.
We need 3 centre backs in my opinion - otherwise Liverpool will just pick us off
Copy United and go 3 at the Back
posted on 26/12/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 7 minutes ago
The line has to be on an angle to make it look offside, as shown by the red dotted line. If the black line afterwards is not on an angle, it shows a different result. And I don't know why you'd think I would make this personal. But yes, this has become tedious.
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Er, because you did make it personal.
Thing is, there is an explanation and it’s far more credible than saying the official is corrupt.
Disagree with the decision all you like - doesn’t make you right and them wrong.
Particularly funny that TOOR is involved in this as he’s the one who said offsides would be 100% accurate because of VAR.
The first one that he disagrees with and rather than admit his error, he says the official is corrupt. Bit embarrassing tbh.
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Is it impossible to believe that an official could be corrupt?
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Of course not.
But it lacks credibility when you look at the situation in context.
Funny how the only people claiming that the VAR official is corrupt are the fans of the team for whom the decision went against.
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I've neither claimed he was or wasn't, but I am asking you if in your opinion it would be impossible for the official to be corrupt and since you've answered of course not then anything is plausible and your behaviour towards TOOR and Firmino is ad hominem, plain and simple. If you cannot rule out that the official could be corrupt then anything is possible.
Now before you start I am not suggesting they are right or you're wrong, I'm merely pointing out that you have gone on to suggest that what they have said is absurd, yet you yourself cannot rule out a corrupt official, so you cannot suggest it's absurd or lacks credibility because it cannot be ruled out. 👍
posted on 26/12/19
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 7 minutes ago
The line has to be on an angle to make it look offside, as shown by the red dotted line. If the black line afterwards is not on an angle, it shows a different result. And I don't know why you'd think I would make this personal. But yes, this has become tedious.
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Er, because you did make it personal.
Thing is, there is an explanation and it’s far more credible than saying the official is corrupt.
Disagree with the decision all you like - doesn’t make you right and them wrong.
Particularly funny that TOOR is involved in this as he’s the one who said offsides would be 100% accurate because of VAR.
The first one that he disagrees with and rather than admit his error, he says the official is corrupt. Bit embarrassing tbh.
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Is it impossible to believe that an official could be corrupt?
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Of course not.
But it lacks credibility when you look at the situation in context.
Funny how the only people claiming that the VAR official is corrupt are the fans of the team for whom the decision went against.
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I've neither claimed he was or wasn't, but I am asking you if in your opinion it would be impossible for the official to be corrupt and since you've answered of course not then anything is plausible and your behaviour towards TOOR and Firmino is ad hominem, plain and simple. If you cannot rule out that the official could be corrupt then anything is possible.
Now before you start I am not suggesting they are right or you're wrong, I'm merely pointing out that you have gone on to suggest that what they have said is absurd, yet you yourself cannot rule out a corrupt official, so you cannot suggest it's absurd or lacks credibility because it cannot be ruled out. 👍
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Well that’s a truly dreadful argument.
Just because something is technically plausible doesn’t make it credible.
No evidence to suggest corruption at all, and it’s only being raised because a decision they don’t agree with went against their team. It is pathetic.
posted on 26/12/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 7 minutes ago
The line has to be on an angle to make it look offside, as shown by the red dotted line. If the black line afterwards is not on an angle, it shows a different result. And I don't know why you'd think I would make this personal. But yes, this has become tedious.
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Er, because you did make it personal.
Thing is, there is an explanation and it’s far more credible than saying the official is corrupt.
Disagree with the decision all you like - doesn’t make you right and them wrong.
Particularly funny that TOOR is involved in this as he’s the one who said offsides would be 100% accurate because of VAR.
The first one that he disagrees with and rather than admit his error, he says the official is corrupt. Bit embarrassing tbh.
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Is it impossible to believe that an official could be corrupt?
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Of course not.
But it lacks credibility when you look at the situation in context.
Funny how the only people claiming that the VAR official is corrupt are the fans of the team for whom the decision went against.
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I've neither claimed he was or wasn't, but I am asking you if in your opinion it would be impossible for the official to be corrupt and since you've answered of course not then anything is plausible and your behaviour towards TOOR and Firmino is ad hominem, plain and simple. If you cannot rule out that the official could be corrupt then anything is possible.
Now before you start I am not suggesting they are right or you're wrong, I'm merely pointing out that you have gone on to suggest that what they have said is absurd, yet you yourself cannot rule out a corrupt official, so you cannot suggest it's absurd or lacks credibility because it cannot be ruled out. 👍
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Well that’s a truly dreadful argument.
Just because something is technically plausible doesn’t make it credible.
No evidence to suggest corruption at all, and it’s only being raised because a decision they don’t agree with went against their team. It is pathetic.
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Well you can't say it's been pathetic because you can't rule it out. Can I ask if you believe VAR has been 100% correct on the whole and if not 100% then provide you summary of its performance?
posted on 26/12/19
Of course I can call it pathetic without ruling it out. That’s an absurd point of view.
And I’ve said all along that VAR won’t give 100% answers. I may disagree with some decisions the officials make.
That’s because of the game and most decisions are subjective. Unlike some fans on here, I’m okay with that.
posted on 26/12/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 seconds ago
Of course I can call it pathetic without ruling it out. That’s an absurd point of view.
And I’ve said all along that VAR won’t give 100% answers. I may disagree with some decisions the officials make.
That’s because of the game and most decisions are subjective. Unlike some fans on here, I’m okay with that.
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Well if they don't agree with a particular decision like you, then surely it's their opinion on a particular decision is just as valid as yours?
posted on 26/12/19
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 seconds ago
Of course I can call it pathetic without ruling it out. That’s an absurd point of view.
And I’ve said all along that VAR won’t give 100% answers. I may disagree with some decisions the officials make.
That’s because of the game and most decisions are subjective. Unlike some fans on here, I’m okay with that.
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Well if they don't agree with a particular decision like you, then surely it's their opinion on a particular decision is just as valid as yours?
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Yes, but that’s not the issue here.
The issue isn’t that they disagree with the decision. It’s that they believe their opinion to be fact and therefore begin to look for reasons as to why the official got it wrong.
It’s beyond their understanding that just because they disagree doesn’t necessarily make the official wrong.
posted on 26/12/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 seconds ago
Of course I can call it pathetic without ruling it out. That’s an absurd point of view.
And I’ve said all along that VAR won’t give 100% answers. I may disagree with some decisions the officials make.
That’s because of the game and most decisions are subjective. Unlike some fans on here, I’m okay with that.
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Well if they don't agree with a particular decision like you, then surely it's their opinion on a particular decision is just as valid as yours?
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Yes, but that’s not the issue here.
The issue isn’t that they disagree with the decision. It’s that they believe their opinion to be fact and therefore begin to look for reasons as to why the official got it wrong.
It’s beyond their understanding that just because they disagree doesn’t necessarily make the official wrong.
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Well is that as equally subjective as the decisions they disagree with?
posted on 26/12/19
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 seconds ago
Of course I can call it pathetic without ruling it out. That’s an absurd point of view.
And I’ve said all along that VAR won’t give 100% answers. I may disagree with some decisions the officials make.
That’s because of the game and most decisions are subjective. Unlike some fans on here, I’m okay with that.
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Well if they don't agree with a particular decision like you, then surely it's their opinion on a particular decision is just as valid as yours?
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Yes, but that’s not the issue here.
The issue isn’t that they disagree with the decision. It’s that they believe their opinion to be fact and therefore begin to look for reasons as to why the official got it wrong.
It’s beyond their understanding that just because they disagree doesn’t necessarily make the official wrong.
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Well is that as equally subjective as the decisions they disagree with?
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No it’s not.
They haven’t offered any credible basis for what is basically a conspiracy theory.
posted on 28/12/19
I seen Got_Better comments on last 20 minutes we were hanging on when in those last 20 minutes we created 3 good chances where we were just didn’t finish Before Liverpool scored from there 2nd chance of the match.
posted on 28/12/19
And that 2nd chance they had was a freakish goal from a scuffed cross that found only Liverpool player in the box. Its funny in the 2 league meetings under OGS, Klopp side managed to create 2 good chances in 180 minutes while Man Utd have been closest to scoring on most occasions playing a defensive game.