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Poch??

There are rumours we’ve held talks with him, which is good news if true and puts pressure on Ole to perform. It wouldn’t surprise me as we did similar when Jose was available.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1228039/Manchester-United-news-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-Mauricio-Pochettino-secret-talks/amp

posted on 14/1/20

comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Regarding Poch, I actually think he is now at a point in his career where he has to choose a club where he will win trophies because if he fails at his next job he is done in my opinion. No ambitious top club will ever trust him.
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That’s a load of rubbish. He’s never really failed at any club he’s been at and is still considered a very good manager rather than one away from being done.

Most sensible people in the game will see just how handicapped he was at Spurs and still performed relative miracles. The way you make out is that he’s on thin ice and has one last chance in the game
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Handicapped

How many Europa league campaigns and not even a single semi final appearance. Emery a clown of a manager won that 3 times.

10th year of management and last season was his first final. No trophies.

If anything he handicaps himself. Even a so called terrible Wenger won 2 trophies in the time Poch was a manager at Spurs.

Stop making excuses for the guy. But then again you thought Moyes was better choice than Pep at one point so Im not surprised.

Jose 2 trophies at united
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I literally never thought Moyes was better than Pep so please keep on making up rubbish

I get it. You’re an Arsenal fan - it’s in your DNA - you can’t handle the fact that Poch got to as many CL finals as your greatest ever manager in much less time.

You guys would have killed to have someone as good as Poch as your manager deep down.

posted on 14/1/20

I think he'd get one more chance after his next job as Marco Silva and even De Beor got a few before ruining their reputation. But I think for himself, he needs to win something. PSG would be a good place and so would Bayern. At United he'd get time but if they fire Ole in the circumstances we're in, he probably won't get much time and the backing he'd get, he'd know he'd be handicapped again (in a different way though).

posted on 14/1/20

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 seconds ago
I think he'd get one more chance after his next job as Marco Silva and even De Beor got a few before ruining their reputation. But I think for himself, he needs to win something. PSG would be a good place and so would Bayern. At United he'd get time but if they fire Ole in the circumstances we're in, he probably won't get much time and the backing he'd get, he'd know he'd be handicapped again (in a different way though).
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Ole got a top job and he relegated Cardiff.
Arteta got a top job and he had never managed anyone.

Those two show sometimes it doesn't matter how badly you have done previously or even if you have done nothing you can still get a top job.

posted on 14/1/20

comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Regarding Poch, I actually think he is now at a point in his career where he has to choose a club where he will win trophies because if he fails at his next job he is done in my opinion. No ambitious top club will ever trust him.
————

That’s a load of rubbish. He’s never really failed at any club he’s been at and is still considered a very good manager rather than one away from being done.

Most sensible people in the game will see just how handicapped he was at Spurs and still performed relative miracles. The way you make out is that he’s on thin ice and has one last chance in the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Handicapped

How many Europa league campaigns and not even a single semi final appearance. Emery a clown of a manager won that 3 times.

10th year of management and last season was his first final. No trophies.

If anything he handicaps himself. Even a so called terrible Wenger won 2 trophies in the time Poch was a manager at Spurs.

Stop making excuses for the guy. But then again you thought Moyes was better choice than Pep at one point so Im not surprised.

Jose 2 trophies at united
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I literally never thought Moyes was better than Pep so please keep on making up rubbish

I get it. You’re an Arsenal fan - it’s in your DNA - you can’t handle the fact that Poch got to as many CL finals as your greatest ever manager in much less time.

You guys would have killed to have someone as good as Poch as your manager deep down.
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Did you just compare Poch to Wenger?

posted on 14/1/20

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think he'd get one more chance after his next job as Marco Silva and even De Beor got a few before ruining their reputation. But I think for himself, he needs to win something. PSG would be a good place and so would Bayern. At United he'd get time but if they fire Ole in the circumstances we're in, he probably won't get much time and the backing he'd get, he'd know he'd be handicapped again (in a different way though).
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This

I dont think united is a good option for him. Must really take the Bayern job if he has any sense.

posted on 14/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Regarding Poch, I actually think he is now at a point in his career where he has to choose a club where he will win trophies because if he fails at his next job he is done in my opinion. No ambitious top club will ever trust him.
————

That’s a load of rubbish. He’s never really failed at any club he’s been at and is still considered a very good manager rather than one away from being done.

Most sensible people in the game will see just how handicapped he was at Spurs and still performed relative miracles. The way you make out is that he’s on thin ice and has one last chance in the game
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Handicapped

How many Europa league campaigns and not even a single semi final appearance. Emery a clown of a manager won that 3 times.

10th year of management and last season was his first final. No trophies.

If anything he handicaps himself. Even a so called terrible Wenger won 2 trophies in the time Poch was a manager at Spurs.

Stop making excuses for the guy. But then again you thought Moyes was better choice than Pep at one point so Im not surprised.

Jose 2 trophies at united
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I literally never thought Moyes was better than Pep so please keep on making up rubbish

I get it. You’re an Arsenal fan - it’s in your DNA - you can’t handle the fact that Poch got to as many CL finals as your greatest ever manager in much less time.

You guys would have killed to have someone as good as Poch as your manager deep down.
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Did you just compare Poch to Wenger?
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doubt he made a direct comparison, he is not that stupid. He is just so desperate for Poch so he has to make up achievements to justify his position.

By the way I didnt say Poch is a rubbish manager, he is a talented manager. But the truth is managerial appointments are decisions made by Executives & CEO's rather than football men and Poch CV is in a bad state.

posted on 14/1/20

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 seconds ago
I think he'd get one more chance after his next job as Marco Silva and even De Beor got a few before ruining their reputation. But I think for himself, he needs to win something. PSG would be a good place and so would Bayern. At United he'd get time but if they fire Ole in the circumstances we're in, he probably won't get much time and the backing he'd get, he'd know he'd be handicapped again (in a different way though).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ole got a top job and he relegated Cardiff.
Arteta got a top job and he had never managed anyone.

Those two show sometimes it doesn't matter how badly you have done previously or even if you have done nothing you can still get a top job.
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Arteta is a bad example

He was actually the first choice when we appointed Emery, but the Executives then went for Emery the safe option

posted on 14/1/20

comment by HB Fash (U21935)

posted 11 minutes ago

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 seconds ago
I think he'd get one more chance after his next job as Marco Silva and even De Beor got a few before ruining their reputation. But I think for himself, he needs to win something. PSG would be a good place and so would Bayern. At United he'd get time but if they fire Ole in the circumstances we're in, he probably won't get much time and the backing he'd get, he'd know he'd be handicapped again (in a different way though).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ole got a top job and he relegated Cardiff.
Arteta got a top job and he had never managed anyone.

Those two show sometimes it doesn't matter how badly you have done previously or even if you have done nothing you can still get a top job.
------
Both have connections to the clubs they're managing. One came in as an caretaker and got the job full time and the other had to start somewhere and being a student of Pep helped as much as being a former player (if not more so).

If Poch has two bad spells as manager after his time at Spurs, you be sure that he'd find it hard to land a big job.

posted on 14/1/20

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)

posted 11 minutes ago

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 seconds ago
I think he'd get one more chance after his next job as Marco Silva and even De Beor got a few before ruining their reputation. But I think for himself, he needs to win something. PSG would be a good place and so would Bayern. At United he'd get time but if they fire Ole in the circumstances we're in, he probably won't get much time and the backing he'd get, he'd know he'd be handicapped again (in a different way though).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ole got a top job and he relegated Cardiff.
Arteta got a top job and he had never managed anyone.

Those two show sometimes it doesn't matter how badly you have done previously or even if you have done nothing you can still get a top job.
------
Both have connections to the clubs they're managing. One came in as an caretaker and got the job full time and the other had to start somewhere and being a student of Pep helped as much as being a former player (if not more so).

If Poch has two bad spells as manager after his time at Spurs, you be sure that he'd find it hard to land a big job.
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I agree about the two bad spells

Right now his stock is high and I’m sure Real would hire him if Zidane wasn’t doing his bit to keep his job. And I’m sure PSG would too if Tuchel wasn’t doing the same - though I think Poch is more ambitious than the French league. Getting top four with Spurs is harder than winning trophies at PSG and he seems like a guy who wants a challenge

posted on 14/1/20

To be honest, I don't know how ambitious he is but he does see some cups underneath him. That may be the case with PSG being in the French league for him.

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