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Very interesting comment from Bielsa

"Every time that the team doesn't win there is something around the club, some feeling of doubt, lack of confidence"

And he's not talking about fans or players. Talks about Orta by name but AR as president.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 17/1/20

Nothing in that article that wasn’t in the presser yesterday.

However it’s not correct for MB to say he’s never refused a player Orta has suggested.

But Bielsa should be driving this rather than letting Orta and Andrea the furniture salesman come up with suggestions.

posted on 17/1/20

It's a snapshot of the presser from yesterday, in quotes, that provides an insight to how MB views transfer activity.

Does seem strange how a man of such integrity as MB is often described, is full of sh when it comes to how players are decided upon?

As for who drives it - we're paying big bucks for a highly respected coach, who clearly states he has faith in VO to identify suitable targets. That should suffice most I'd imagine?

Your description of VO and AR as furniture salesman really enhances the view of how you perceive them and tailor contributions accordingly. I do sometimes wonder who and what it would take for an owner & management of our club to be deemed up to scratch?

Whatever the faults, we sit 2nd in the league, play footy as good and entertaining as many can remember, match attendances attest to that. Overall I get the impression most are happy with where we are. Could be better of course, we'd all like that. It's all being done without the benefit of parachute payments or fiddling the books when it comes to our finances.

posted on 17/1/20

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comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 17/1/20

Your description of VO and AR as furniture salesman
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Where did I describe them as this?

I am referring to Andrea, the furniture salesman that Cellinos wife hired, who is still on the books as a scout/analyst.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 17/1/20

As for Bielsa's comments on Orta. Firstly, I think some of these things might lose something in translation although Bielsa understands English much better than when he arrived and you can see him picking up on Flores misinterpretation quite a bit.

In this window Orta has proposed players to Bielsa which Bielsa has rejected. So, for Bielsa to say otherwise is incorrect unless he somehow is interpreting something else. Bielsa is very specific in his requirements and that was clear in his comments too.

Bielsa praises Orta to the hilt, its a clever way of putting pressure on the club to deliver, rather than previous managers ways such as TC saying ask Victor, which was his standard reply to the same questions.

posted on 17/1/20

What a silly article, and thread, loaded with conspiracy theory's and propaganda to something that actually never happened.

complete waste of time...

must admit though, Jontys comeback ref Andrea made me laugh.. almost brilliant to be fair

posted on 17/1/20

Every match day?..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAdlZ2F-fs8&list=RDNAdlZ2F-fs8&start_radio=1

Pretending might take some of suicide watch!..

posted on 17/1/20

comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
What a silly article, and thread, loaded with conspiracy theory's and propaganda to something that actually never happened.

complete waste of time...

must admit though, Jontys comeback ref Andrea made me laugh.. almost brilliant to be fair
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To be fair, me too.

Far too many Andreas in our club ……..

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 17/1/20

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 16 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
"From a sample size of 1,973 minutes from a range of different youth and senior competitions over the course of the previous three seasons"

They haven't got enough volume of data to make a proper analysis.....this is not a first team player.
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Maybe Bielsa thinks differently. Seems he wants him if he’s prepared to call him personally.


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Yeah I’m sure Bielsa’s been keeping tabs on him and instructed Orta to go and get him for our promotion push....
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I take it that’s supposed to be irony but it might be closer to the truth than you think.

Let’s face it you are just making assumptions - as the rest of us are.

posted on 17/1/20

Gayle scores for fun the in Championship, I'd take him

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