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How can Var work in this system?!

Just watching a repeat of goals on Sunday with Chris Kamara and Jolean Lescott as the guest. Both pundits were in disbelief that we wasn’t given the pen yesterday. Looking at it again, it just looks worse and worse , even the Sheff Utd player has his hands up knowing he’s made a mistake.

I know their has been fair few sides that have had an injustice this season with var, if not multiple ones so I’m not just singling us out. How can it work in this current system when its just two refs that have two different opinions on a specific incident. I know their is probs some sort of code of trust between refs and due to the respect they have for each other and that they will not undermine each other.

Mike Dean just had no interest in going over to the video monitor because his colleague Martin Atkinson had told him it wasn’t a pen, someone that might see the game in a different way to what Dean would. As the ref he has to go over to double check and if he comes back with the same opinion then fair enough but I’m convinced he gives it if he does check it. It was at a stage in the game when we were on top and 2-0 makes it harder for them to comeback. It’s not a whinge, huge respect to Sheff Utd they’re a very gd side who are well organised and I expected a difficult game which they gave us.

It’s just for what’s right and this is for all teams who have been on the end of some shocking decisions. It’s not Var that’s the problem it’s the ridiculous rules that have been made up, it’s like “we are the premier league we have to be different", why have they over complicated a simple concept!. In the World Cup the majority of refs were encouraged to go and check the monitor and they had the final decision. Simple as , why all these silly rules. Why can’t the ref just go over and see a few replays without someone in his ear and make a decision. Just so frustrating.

posted on 19/1/20

Yeah, too many wrong decisions. Remember the Palace home game at OT. 2 straightforward decisions both ignored by VAR lol.

posted on 19/1/20

Cahill clear red card early on, VAR ignores it, Martial clearly fouled in penalty area, VAR looks at something else lol. Then we have the Southampton game, they get away with 2 red cards before they finally get a red card. They should concede a stonewall penalty but somehow VAR ignores it.

Sheffield United game Jones smashed out the way, nothing about being stronger he just gets smashed out the way and it was a clear foul but ref ignores it. Everton game elbowed De Gea and arm jumped on= somehow not given. They created 0 chances all game and we conceded a goal from a foul. There expected goal would have been 0 without it. That decision should have take around 1 second to overturn. Wolves game wonky lines maybe was offside but they gave it onside as they couldn't figure out if it was onside or offside.

posted on 19/1/20

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 39 seconds ago
Yeah, too many wrong decisions. Remember the Palace home game at OT. 2 straightforward decisions both ignored by VAR lol.
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Yeh, their has been some shockers. The worst rule is the handball one, so what they’re saying is that as an opposition player you can head it on to an opposing players hand and stop a potential goal like Sheff Utd v West Ham last week. It’s utter madness and it’s created more arguments than before it was introduced!.

posted on 19/1/20

Fouls will always come down to a matter of opinion and there’s nothing you can change about that unfortunately.

posted on 19/1/20

Its hard to believe Cahill takes player out knowing he is gonna get a straight red card and VAR decides we are going to cheat Man Utd. Then the fact VAR excuse of not giving Man Utd penalty on Martial was because they were looking at something else is crazy. No VAR would have been needed for those decisions.

Also the Greenwood foul in Southampton game, he got cleaned out as Southampton player tried to smash the ball clear like a goalkick and took Greenwood out instead. VAR had a look and didn't give a penalty. What is VAR looking at. Even a nearly blind person would see it is a penalty.

posted on 19/1/20

Honestly think VAR has screwed us over and has set the tone of our season. Imagine Palace game and Southampton game we easily win if ref gives correct decisions. Even Wolves game it looked offside but they gave a goal with wonky line and not correct time of when ball was played line.

posted on 19/1/20

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Fouls will always come down to a matter of opinion and there’s nothing you can change about that unfortunately.
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I’m ok with that aslong as it’s the refs opinion after he’s checked with the video technology himself which is what VAR is and decided , not with someone in his ear who sees the incident differently.

posted on 19/1/20

Its not even opinion on certain decisions. Cahil takes someone out, clear foul, they agree and clear red card and they decide a yellow? That means they don't know the rules.

Clear foul in box= penalty VAR= We will just ignore it.
Clear foul on defender or goalkeeper= We will just ignore it and allow the goal. Happened quite a few times this season goals wrongly awarded and no penalty is given.

Its funny you see statistics like how teams have not benefitted from VAR when they ignore all decisions VAR has ignored wrongly.

posted on 20/1/20

It should be mandatory for the ref to check VAR pitch side

posted on 20/1/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 14 hours, 55 minutes ago
With the extra year they had, they should have trained people specific for VAR. Maybe fatties, or women. Putting actual refs in there is wrong imo. And then, as you say, the on-field ref has the final say.
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"Maybe fatties or women"...?

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