on the One Show, they had David Baddiel on talking about Racism. Did anybody pick up on the clips that were being shown around this discussion. Firstly they had commentary from the Spurs v Chelsea match to say that an announcement was being made over the tannoy inferring possible racial abuse. Then they showed clips from the same match, inferring that racial abuse had taken place.
Now this was totally out of order, considering that absolutely nobody has been found to have made any racial abuse at this match, so why did they show it again. It is a clear smearing of our club.
There were plenty of clips of clear racial abuse available, some from Baddiel`s own club that could have used. Why use clips from a match where zero racial abuse had taken place.
Spurs would in my opinion have a strong case of taking the BBC to task for trying to smear the club.
Baddiel also mentioned certain words were being used, obviously I suspect referring to to Y word, and again trying to smear Spurs as a club. I would have thought he should be more interested in the convicted racists he has at his own club, than keep going on about Spurs.
Prior to last night`s FA Cup draw
posted on 28/1/20
I might be a little naive here but I've always wondered why the Y word is considered an insult.
I'd always thought of it a kosher (no ad lib pun intended there) word to describe a race of people similar to the way the British were described as Anglo Saxon, the French Gauls or Belgians Flemish.
If you go on Google translate, you can even select Yiddish as a language - so why is it deemed insulting.
Genuinely not trying to wind anyone up but I'd like to know what the taken offence is!
posted on 28/1/20
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 7 minutes ago
I might be a little naive here but I've always wondered why the Y word is considered an insult.
I'd always thought of it a kosher (no ad lib pun intended there) word to describe a race of people similar to the way the British were described as Anglo Saxon, the French Gauls or Belgians Flemish.
If you go on Google translate, you can even select Yiddish as a language - so why is it deemed insulting.
Genuinely not trying to wind anyone up but I'd like to know what the taken offence is!
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I'm no expert but my understanding of the objections is that you wouldn't call a black person a n and in the same way you shouldn't call a Jewish person a y. Basically its an insult based on race/religion.
Alot of Jews don't mind it but some object very strongly.
posted on 28/1/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 7 minutes ago
I might be a little naive here but I've always wondered why the Y word is considered an insult.
I'd always thought of it a kosher (no ad lib pun intended there) word to describe a race of people similar to the way the British were described as Anglo Saxon, the French Gauls or Belgians Flemish.
If you go on Google translate, you can even select Yiddish as a language - so why is it deemed insulting.
Genuinely not trying to wind anyone up but I'd like to know what the taken offence is!
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I'm no expert but my understanding of the objections is that you wouldn't call a black person a n and in the same way you shouldn't call a Jewish person a y. Basically its an insult based on race/religion.
Alot of Jews don't mind it but some object very strongly.
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But then why can you translate using the Yiddish language on Google translate?
It doesn't make any sense to me and in that context can't be (I wouldn't have thought) described as being in the same vein as say the N word!!
posted on 28/1/20
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posted on 28/1/20
Yiddish is the historical language of the Ashkenazi Jews. It originated during the 9th century in Central Europe, providing the nascent Ashkenazi community with a High German-based vernacular fused with elements taken from Hebrew and Aramaic as well as from Slavic languages and traces of Romance languages. Wikipedia
Native speakers: (1.5 million cited 1986–1991 + half undated)
Ethnicity: Ashkenazi Jews
Native to: Central, Eastern and Western Europe
Writing system: Hebrew alphabet (Yiddish orthography)
Language family: Germanic languages, Indo-European languages
People also search for: Hebrew Language, Meänkieli dialects, Romani language, more
Regions: Europe, Israel, North America
So according to that it's the ancient language of a race of Jewish culture, which reinforces my confusion as to why it's considered an insult!!
posted on 28/1/20
I am sure Spurs fans do not mean to offend any Jews, I don't think is offensive at all. I know lots of Jews who use it as a badge of honor.
The hissing sounds though are totally out of order.
posted on 28/1/20
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yiddish is the historical language of the Ashkenazi Jews. It originated during the 9th century in Central Europe, providing the nascent Ashkenazi community with a High German-based vernacular fused with elements taken from Hebrew and Aramaic as well as from Slavic languages and traces of Romance languages. Wikipedia
Native speakers: (1.5 million cited 1986–1991 + half undated)
Ethnicity: Ashkenazi Jews
Native to: Central, Eastern and Western Europe
Writing system: Hebrew alphabet (Yiddish orthography)
Language family: Germanic languages, Indo-European languages
People also search for: Hebrew Language, Meänkieli dialects, Romani language, more
Regions: Europe, Israel, North America
So according to that it's the ancient language of a race of Jewish culture, which reinforces my confusion as to why it's considered an insult!!
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I agree that it isn’t racist but by saying it is, it helps certain outfits to serve their cause well
Sad that people in entertainment business have to play the race card to get attention or make audiences laugh
It’s sad and archaic
posted on 28/1/20
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yiddish is the historical language of the Ashkenazi Jews. It originated during the 9th century in Central Europe, providing the nascent Ashkenazi community with a High German-based vernacular fused with elements taken from Hebrew and Aramaic as well as from Slavic languages and traces of Romance languages. Wikipedia
Native speakers: (1.5 million cited 1986–1991 + half undated)
Ethnicity: Ashkenazi Jews
Native to: Central, Eastern and Western Europe
Writing system: Hebrew alphabet (Yiddish orthography)
Language family: Germanic languages, Indo-European languages
People also search for: Hebrew Language, Meänkieli dialects, Romani language, more
Regions: Europe, Israel, North America
So according to that it's the ancient language of a race of Jewish culture, which reinforces my confusion as to why it's considered an insult!!
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I agree that it isn’t racist but by saying it is, it helps certain outfits to serve their cause well
Sad that people in entertainment business have to play the race card to get attention or make audiences laugh
It’s sad and archaic
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But how do such people get away with demonising it's use, when by that description the word has it's origins as an ancient language?
On the face of it, it appears less offensive than calling someone from Liverpool a scouser, someone from Newcastle a Geordie or someone from Suffolk a carrot cruncher!
Maybe some people need educating on the meaning of the word unless there's some other malevolent undertone to it of which I'm currently unaware of!
posted on 28/1/20
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yiddish is the historical language of the Ashkenazi Jews. It originated during the 9th century in Central Europe, providing the nascent Ashkenazi community with a High German-based vernacular fused with elements taken from Hebrew and Aramaic as well as from Slavic languages and traces of Romance languages. Wikipedia
Native speakers: (1.5 million cited 1986–1991 + half undated)
Ethnicity: Ashkenazi Jews
Native to: Central, Eastern and Western Europe
Writing system: Hebrew alphabet (Yiddish orthography)
Language family: Germanic languages, Indo-European languages
People also search for: Hebrew Language, Meänkieli dialects, Romani language, more
Regions: Europe, Israel, North America
So according to that it's the ancient language of a race of Jewish culture, which reinforces my confusion as to why it's considered an insult!!
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I agree that it isn’t racist but by saying it is, it helps certain outfits to serve their cause well
Sad that people in entertainment business have to play the race card to get attention or make audiences laugh
It’s sad and archaic
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But how do such people get away with demonising it's use, when by that description the word has it's origins as an ancient language?
On the face of it, it appears less offensive than calling someone from Liverpool a scouser, someone from Newcastle a Geordie or someone from Suffolk a carrot cruncher!
Maybe some people need educating on the meaning of the word unless there's some other malevolent undertone to it of which I'm currently unaware of!
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I think that is the key; education and awareness programs
The club is Spurs should invest such a program
As it must disassociate itself from being tarnished with the label of racist
posted on 28/1/20