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FA Reasons re Casilla Ban

Here it is

http://www.thefa.com/news/2020/mar/03/kiko-casilla-written-reasons-030320?fbclid=IwAR3lCu-dbFu0Ecg0s_mGZZoELCsSUl7kSOrXWb7GbKW8BBc2l7sKM0nAmJ4

posted on 4/3/20

If the club have defended him knowing its not right, than they'll not sack him!..

It'll be a case of bad defending and moving on, if they sack him people will ask so why did you try and make out he was innocent!..

What gets me is the bit that he's been hung and then told he's not racist, if he's been done, found guilty then he's racist end off!..

But I'll still ask should the Leeds players at the case not be charged if they've been made out to have lied?..

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 4/3/20

The keeper denied the charge, but the commission rejected his evidence and that of Leeds team manager Matt Grice, who “was not seeking to assist us to ascertain the truth”.
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Simply no excuse for this from the club, who should be addressing in public, why this happened.

posted on 4/3/20

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 7 minutes ago
The keeper denied the charge, but the commission rejected his evidence and that of Leeds team manager Matt Grice, who “was not seeking to assist us to ascertain the truth”.
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Simply no excuse for this from the club, who should be addressing in public, why this happened.
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No they shouldn't. I'd Grice is let go then the club should avoid hanging him out to dry like dirty laundry.

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)

posted on 4/3/20

Ok, last comment from me on this:

if I was paying a member of my staff 35k A WEEK, I would demand their conduct both off and most of all on the pitch was maintained at all times to the highest professional standards. Everyone sees red sometimes, but by the time you hit your thirties, you should really have learned how to control your temper, especially in public, especially in a high profile business that is often televised. I would never be able to trust Casilla not to lose it again.

I'd sack him and make it very public: in any case, he has voided his contract, surely?

posted on 4/3/20

If he's voided his contract does that mean the club can claim some of the thousands they've already paid him back?..

They'll more than likely be paying his fine for him!..

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 4/3/20

https://twitter.com/martynziegler/status/1235257100240064512?s=21

It seems everyone has forgotten the victim in all
If this.

Disappointing to hear that he has not had more support through this time but also that so many Leeds fans are giving him abuse online, they should be ashamed of themselves. It’s one massive reason why the club needs to show better leadership here.

posted on 4/3/20

Jonathan’s statement reads: “I am naturally relieved that the process is now complete and the FA have upheld what I have always known to be true – that I was racially abused by Kiko Casilla in a manner which shocked me and still angers and upsets me to this day.

“I have been disappointed with the amount of time it has taken to reach this point. Knowing what occurred in the game that day, it has been difficult to watch Kiko Casilla continue to play for such a lengthy period as if nothing had happened. 

“I would urge the game’s governing bodies to look into their own processes when such incidents are reported. It was 22 weeks between the incident and the hearing during which I had minimal contact from the PFA, of which I am a member, and no contact in the way of support from leading anti-racism bodies such as ‘Kick It Out’ and ‘Show Racism The Red Card’. Some support or guidance would have been very welcome.

“By bringing the incident to the referee’s attention immediately, I was only doing what I have been educated to do throughout my career. But I found the hearing, at which I was made to feel I had done something wrong, extremely stressful. 

“It made me question whether I would be prepared to go through it all again were I on the receiving end of similar abuse in the future. I certainly would think twice about how to advise another player placed in the same situation. 

“From the outset, all I have done is report something that had to be challenged and exposed for what it is – racial abuse. I now want to put the episode behind me and concentrate on recovering from my injury to be ready for next season.” 

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)

posted on 4/3/20

“It made me question whether I would be prepared to go through it all again were I on the receiving end of similar abuse in the future. I certainly would think twice about how to advise another player placed in the same situation. "

Disgraceful, really. And any keyboard warriors pretending to be Leeds fans abusing this guy on Twatter need to be named and shamed.

Whole thing stinks - I'm really shocked.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 4/3/20

This has been exacerbated by Kiko, to this day, professing his innocence and the club trying to bend the truth and influence people.

Club need to do the right thing and make a public statement condemning the abuse Leko is getting and apologising, along with Kiko apologising for this incident.

posted on 4/3/20

I think there’s a lot of Leeds fans out there who should be very disappointed with themselves also.

I get defending the club and disliking the authorities. But this was more than that. Next time wait for the findings before reacting.

You can’t get irate at the FA for finding Casilla guilty without the evidence before we know the evidence they had. The irony is so obvious.

Don’t get me wrong I think the FA were still stupid to release the verdict without the findings and it was unfair on Leeds for the verdict to be released when it was.

But 2 wrongs don’t make a right. And ffs the amount of times I heard the defence ‘How the hell can they find him guilty for saying mark the black player’ that was never a thing. It was never based on reality.

And the abuse that Leko has had embarrassing. It’s disgrace.

I will stand by the clubs whatever they decide. I trust Bielsa and his influence on the club with this. But it doesn’t look good at all.

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