Following on from Don`s article

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think anyone can debate the fact it was much easier to score back then. Some of the footage I watch is laughable and it's almost like watching a different sport.

Eg. If shearer played 50 years ago, with the fitness he had, he'd score millions. Some of the formations were mental too lol basically no midfield existed.

As was said on the other thread, it's cool to marvel at players from yester year but you can't compare them. Fitness levels alone are world's apart, without even addressing the difervent balls/boots/tactics
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You only have to look at the evolution in the 100m sprint from Jesse Owen's day to now. Owen was a great in his era but he could race against the guy who came last place at the last Olympics and would get his arrse whooped and we know that from the times they ran it in.

I imagine it would similarly apply to football.

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 10 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Alternatively you could write about how England lost its unbeaten home record in Internationals at wembley.....
I'm assuming you have not forgotten.
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Ted, in answer to both your questions.

USA v England 1-0 1950 World Cup

England v Hungary 3-6 1953 Wembleym first ever home defeat

Of course I have not forgotten. I was brought up as a wee lad on history like that.
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Then you could write more worth reading posts about those events.
Much more worthwhile than "who scored the most goals".

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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think anyone can debate the fact it was much easier to score back then. Some of the footage I watch is laughable and it's almost like watching a different sport.

Eg. If shearer played 50 years ago, with the fitness he had, he'd score millions. Some of the formations were mental too lol basically no midfield existed.

As was said on the other thread, it's cool to marvel at players from yester year but you can't compare them. Fitness levels alone are world's apart, without even addressing the difervent balls/boots/tactics
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You only have to look at the evolution in the 100m sprint from Jesse Owen's day to now. Owen was a great in his era but he could race against the guy who came last place at the last Olympics and would get his arrse whooped and we know that from the times they ran it in.

I imagine it would similarly apply to football.
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If Jesse Owens had lived in this era, using the training methods, diet and kit now used, he'd still win over anybody.
He ended his career racing race horses!

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 10 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Alternatively you could write about how England lost its unbeaten home record in Internationals at wembley.....
I'm assuming you have not forgotten.
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Ted, in answer to both your questions.

USA v England 1-0 1950 World Cup

England v Hungary 3-6 1953 Wembleym first ever home defeat

Of course I have not forgotten. I was brought up as a wee lad on history like that.
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Then you could write more worth reading posts about those events.
Much more worthwhile than "who scored the most goals".
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You've kind of missed the point of the article. It isnt just a list of who scored more is it. Did you actually read anything other than the list of players? I personally disagree with the premise of it, but you're doing sandy a disservice by just saying it's a list of players that have scored goals.
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Yup, I guess I missed the point Sandy was making.
Could you explain it?

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comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think anyone can debate the fact it was much easier to score back then. Some of the footage I watch is laughable and it's almost like watching a different sport.

Eg. If shearer played 50 years ago, with the fitness he had, he'd score millions. Some of the formations were mental too lol basically no midfield existed.

As was said on the other thread, it's cool to marvel at players from yester year but you can't compare them. Fitness levels alone are world's apart, without even addressing the difervent balls/boots/tactics
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You only have to look at the evolution in the 100m sprint from Jesse Owen's day to now. Owen was a great in his era but he could race against the guy who came last place at the last Olympics and would get his arrse whooped and we know that from the times they ran it in.

I imagine it would similarly apply to football.
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If Jesse Owens had lived in this era, using the training methods, diet and kit now used, he'd still win over anybody.
He ended his career racing race horses!

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That’s not the point though is it mate. Jesse Owen didn’t have the training methods of today. Same applies to the footy in respect to the training not being as intense meaning the players in Sandy’s era were nowhere as fit. The football just wasn’t the same standard as it is today and Spurtles point about Jesse Owen is an excellent example. Great in his day, but have him in his climate or era racing against the top sprinters of today, he would get smashed.

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think anyone can debate the fact it was much easier to score back then. Some of the footage I watch is laughable and it's almost like watching a different sport.

Eg. If shearer played 50 years ago, with the fitness he had, he'd score millions. Some of the formations were mental too lol basically no midfield existed.

As was said on the other thread, it's cool to marvel at players from yester year but you can't compare them. Fitness levels alone are world's apart, without even addressing the difervent balls/boots/tactics
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You only have to look at the evolution in the 100m sprint from Jesse Owen's day to now. Owen was a great in his era but he could race against the guy who came last place at the last Olympics and would get his arrse whooped and we know that from the times they ran it in.

I imagine it would similarly apply to football.
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If Jesse Owens had lived in this era, using the training methods, diet and kit now used, he'd still win over anybody.
He ended his career racing race horses!

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That’s not the point though is it mate. Jesse Owen didn’t have the training methods of today. Same applies to the footy in respect to the training not being as intense meaning the players in Sandy’s era were nowhere as fit. The football just wasn’t the same standard as it is today and Spurtles point about Jesse Owen is an excellent example. Great in his day, but have him in his climate or era racing against the top sprinters of today, he would get smashed.
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You could argue that about any sport.
Point is Jesse Owens is an ALL TIME great and would more than hold his own against today's runners under the same conditions.
Anyways, I did not get that point from Sandy's long list of goal scorers. And if it was his point, why did he leave out Nat Lofthouse who's goal scoring average was almost one per game, 30 goals in 33 matches for England 1950-58. And most of his career was spent in the coal mines during WW2. God only knows what he would have done without the war!

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comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 12 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think anyone can debate the fact it was much easier to score back then. Some of the footage I watch is laughable and it's almost like watching a different sport.

Eg. If shearer played 50 years ago, with the fitness he had, he'd score millions. Some of the formations were mental too lol basically no midfield existed.

As was said on the other thread, it's cool to marvel at players from yester year but you can't compare them. Fitness levels alone are world's apart, without even addressing the difervent balls/boots/tactics
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You only have to look at the evolution in the 100m sprint from Jesse Owen's day to now. Owen was a great in his era but he could race against the guy who came last place at the last Olympics and would get his arrse whooped and we know that from the times they ran it in.

I imagine it would similarly apply to football.
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If Jesse Owens had lived in this era, using the training methods, diet and kit now used, he'd still win over anybody.
He ended his career racing race horses!

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That’s not the point though is it mate. Jesse Owen didn’t have the training methods of today. Same applies to the footy in respect to the training not being as intense meaning the players in Sandy’s era were nowhere as fit. The football just wasn’t the same standard as it is today and Spurtles point about Jesse Owen is an excellent example. Great in his day, but have him in his climate or era racing against the top sprinters of today, he would get smashed.
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Don, silly to say he would get smashed. He would have the same training conditions as the modern athletes.