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"Project Restart"

Potential target start date Monday June 8th finishing late July.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52439018

This will be discussed in more detail at the PL meeting Friday, where games are expected to be announced as being behind closed doors.

Also what I thought was interesting is what "approved stadiums" will be used and whether that will be a limited number of grounds or neutral venues.

For me the games need to be played where the games are meant to be played as per the remaining fixtures for the integrity of the league.

It maybe for logistical and health and safety reasons they go with something different

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 8 minutes ago
No team who haven't mathematically ensured their fate deserve anything
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I disagree. There's no rule that says anything must be mathematically ensured.
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Weird argument.

Whats the point in having a set number of games for a season then?
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Games themselves are not decided purely on mathematical principles. There’s a lot of subjectivity in a game when it comes to the ref’s decision. So if the underlying premise for awarding points is based on subjective decisions, carrying that forward it is true that there cannot be a rule to say everything must be mathematically decided.
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You've put it very nicely but if we don't decide things mathematically then sod the table lets have a ballot.

I vote for Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham to get relegated.

posted on 2/5/20

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 21 seconds ago
“ If we must play it out then it should be done when teams can play under the same conditions they started with”

Not really, a precedent has been set. Spurs started the 18/19 season playing home games at Wembley. From April onwards they played their remaining home games at the new stadium. Didn’t see many complaints from Spurs fans at the time
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You're barking up the wrong tree with me on this one.

Although I hated Wembley I always made it clear that having started a 2nd season there we should finish it there. As I said yesterday I was surprised that the Prem allowed it.
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you're missing the point, a precedent has been set that's its acceptable to play home games in different stadiums during the same season.
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Sandy and Billy’s heads falling off.
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Why ?
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On reading Gaffers comment. It was spurs that set the precedent for different venues in the same season, and they are the ones hoping the season is voided as changing the conditions in the same season leads to a loss of integrity.
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I notice no response from PB on that

posted on 2/5/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 2 minutes ago
Next season will also be started behind closed doors and at neutral venues and finished under different conditions.

Perhaps we should just void it right now.
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Wretched though that would be if we began a season under those circumstances then thats how it should end.
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And if social distancing is eased over the course of the season and by the end fans are let back in?
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Thats ridiculous if Spurs v Arsenal is played in a neutral venue infront of nobody how would it then be fair for Arsenal to have a partisan home crowd for the reverse fixture?
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It's not fair. But neither is any feasible solution.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 2/5/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 8 minutes ago
No team who haven't mathematically ensured their fate deserve anything
-----
I disagree. There's no rule that says anything must be mathematically ensured.
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Weird argument.

Whats the point in having a set number of games for a season then?
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The number of games is determined by the number of teams in a competition. Nothing to do with mathematical qualification.

The purpose of the league and competition is to determine the best and most deserving team of which at this point is as the table stands.

posted on 2/5/20

comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 21 seconds ago
“ If we must play it out then it should be done when teams can play under the same conditions they started with”

Not really, a precedent has been set. Spurs started the 18/19 season playing home games at Wembley. From April onwards they played their remaining home games at the new stadium. Didn’t see many complaints from Spurs fans at the time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're barking up the wrong tree with me on this one.

Although I hated Wembley I always made it clear that having started a 2nd season there we should finish it there. As I said yesterday I was surprised that the Prem allowed it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you're missing the point, a precedent has been set that's its acceptable to play home games in different stadiums during the same season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Sandy and Billy’s heads falling off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On reading Gaffers comment. It was spurs that set the precedent for different venues in the same season, and they are the ones hoping the season is voided as changing the conditions in the same season leads to a loss of integrity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I notice no response from PB on that

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Give me a chance I'm trying to eat my dinner and answer all points at the same time.

As I 've made clear I don't think it should have been allowed but oddly enough there weren't many dissenting voices at the time.

I'm not sure us moving ground for the last few home games is quite the same as everybody playing at neutral venues infront of zero crowds but I totally accept that it strengthens your argument.

Would you enjoy such a spectacle?

posted on 2/5/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 21 seconds ago
“ If we must play it out then it should be done when teams can play under the same conditions they started with”

Not really, a precedent has been set. Spurs started the 18/19 season playing home games at Wembley. From April onwards they played their remaining home games at the new stadium. Didn’t see many complaints from Spurs fans at the time
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're barking up the wrong tree with me on this one.

Although I hated Wembley I always made it clear that having started a 2nd season there we should finish it there. As I said yesterday I was surprised that the Prem allowed it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
you're missing the point, a precedent has been set that's its acceptable to play home games in different stadiums during the same season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Sandy and Billy’s heads falling off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On reading Gaffers comment. It was spurs that set the precedent for different venues in the same season, and they are the ones hoping the season is voided as changing the conditions in the same season leads to a loss of integrity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I notice no response from PB on that

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Give me a chance I'm trying to eat my dinner and answer all points at the same time.

As I 've made clear I don't think it should have been allowed but oddly enough there weren't many dissenting voices at the time.

I'm not sure us moving ground for the last few home games is quite the same as everybody playing at neutral venues infront of zero crowds but I totally accept that it strengthens your argument.

Would you enjoy such a spectacle?
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would I enjoy is irrelevant.

The point is its happened previously just a few years back so the precedent has been set

posted on 2/5/20

I totally accept that it strengthens your argument.

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That’s literally the only part of PBs comment that is not ambiguous or irrelevant.

posted on 2/5/20

being 72 and diabetic i can ask the question - bearing in mind that 90% of the deaths from convid -19 have been over 70 with health issues and could have been expected to die within 12 months anyway, and the immense damage to the economy as well as football being done by lockdown, and that even 100,000 deaths only represents 0.15% of our 65,000,000 population - when do we say sod it, let's get back to normal and see some football ?

posted on 2/5/20

Guess being diabetic, the ‘packet of Skittles’ analogy probably passed you by...

comment by RB&W (U21434)

posted on 2/5/20

and that even 100,000 deaths only represents 0.15% of our 65,000,000 population - when do we say sod it, let's get back to normal and see some football ?
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This, is what we are having to deal with.

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