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League Reconstruction

Talks apparently falling apart but in all honesty that shouldn't be a surprise as there will be more losers than winners. 14-14-14 was the only option but its riddled with problems even from a neutral perspective

Winners
Hearts, Partick, Stranraer and Brechin City

Losers
Dundee and Ayr (could have caught ICT for automatic promotion)
Clyde and Peterhead (could have finished in top 6 but instead will be playing teams in lower tier despite not being in relegation or play off positions)
Cove Rangers (champions yet will still find themselves in the bottom tier v the same teams or if you promote them then you do so ahead of Clyde and Peterhead and potentially East Fife)
Kelty Hearts or Brora

I can fully understand why the talks have fallen apart. It's done to appease 3 teams, 1 of which is almost certainly down (Stranraer), one likely to go down (Hearts) and another (Partick) barely in bottom place in a division with a history of late revivals ie Alloa and St Mirren in recent years.

comment by Miller (U9310)

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 16 minutes ago
Posted this on another thread but football talk is at a minimum there

https://dafc.co.uk/story.php?t=Chairman`s_Statement_&ID=11909
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I liked the bit where he says ‘I like the company I keep.’

Interesting note on Douglas Park that he’s been in trouble with the Scottish football authorities before when he was fine £1,000 for locking the ref in his dressing room after a game when he was at Hearts.

The mud that’s getting slung about just now is stupendous.
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It's a total mess. I'm not sure I could tell the difference between threats, robust exchanges and clarification of consequences anymore.

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

Aye as I've already said.. the folk in charge at Caley just now are as dodgy as you can get. The club is also on its knees financially so they're coming from a position of desperation.

Wouldn't listen to much of what they have to say.

comment by Miller (U9310)

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 55 seconds ago
Aye as I've already said.. the folk in charge at Caley just now are as dodgy as you can get. The club is also on its knees financially so they're coming from a position of desperation.

Wouldn't listen to much of what they have to say.
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How many clubs aren't desperate right now?

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 55 seconds ago
Aye as I've already said.. the folk in charge at Caley just now are as dodgy as you can get. The club is also on its knees financially so they're coming from a position of desperation.

Wouldn't listen to much of what they have to say.
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How many clubs aren't desperate right now?
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Strip clubs

comment by My POV (U10636)

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 16 minutes ago
Posted this on another thread but football talk is at a minimum there

https://dafc.co.uk/story.php?t=Chairman`s_Statement_&ID=11909
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I liked the bit where he says ‘I like the company I keep.’

Interesting note on Douglas Park that he’s been in trouble with the Scottish football authorities before when he was fine £1,000 for locking the ref in his dressing room after a game when he was at Hearts.

The mud that’s getting slung about just now is stupendous.
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It's a total mess. I'm not sure I could tell the difference between threats, robust exchanges and clarification of consequences anymore.
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A lot of this is now coming down to ‘he said, she said’.

Someone will say I felt it was a threat, and the person will say it will say it wasn’t said as a threat-as we’re seeing.

Everyone will view this as a shambles, and could only happen here. I don’t agree with that, as I think there’ll be a lot of arguments and fights all over Europe at this rate. The EPL has hit a problem with no elite sports before 1st June. Teams only willing to play if there’s no relegation and if they don’t use the neutral venue that’s being discussed.

There’s no perfect solution-only the least scheidt option for every country.

Aberdeen have said they will support the rangers resolution, more so from a point of view of putting it to bed with everything disclosed. I get that point, and I think that’s fair enough. I’ve said I think there has to be a review of what’s gone on as a minimum to make sure we learn from it.

Down to the clubs now.

comment by deBear (U8633)

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 55 seconds ago
Aye as I've already said.. the folk in charge at Caley just now are as dodgy as you can get. The club is also on its knees financially so they're coming from a position of desperation.

Wouldn't listen to much of what they have to say.
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How many clubs aren't desperate right now?
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Strip clubs
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Yeah, but they're now clothed...

<lithp>

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

deBear

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 5 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda(change our mindset, treat this seriously) (U1850)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 4 minutes ago
So Doncaster has drawn an imaginary line and despite all the rough tough business men using robust language it is only Rangers who have crossed it?

Aye OK.

Now this stuff really bores me to tears and I would much rather none of this nonsense was going on but I have to say I think Rangers deserve a wee bit of credit for offering to pay for the investigation. They have put their money where their mouth is.

Doncaster was quick to play the finance card as a reason it shouldn't go ahead. That is why Rangers have offered to pay - not so they can hold any sort of undue influence over the investigation.
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Can you point to where he said only Douglas Park has “crossed the line”? I think that may be false.

I appreciate you think Rangers deserve credit. I think if rangers really wanted something done about the apparent old boys club who run the SPFL poorly, they would’ve gone about it in a much more cooperative manner. They wouldn’t have overplayed their hand and underdelivered. They would have met with other clubs and discussed whatever material they had, identified the key elements that point to incompetence and have a resolution, and resulting investigation, on that narrow basis. On the presumption that there’d be findings from that narrow investigation, the pressure would’ve been too much on Doncaster and he would have resigned.

Let me ask you, in all honesty, do you think rangers have gone about this in the most effective way if the objective is to remove Doncaster?
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Yes
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A scarfy response I see.
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The honest response to your question would be "NO!". Rangers FC is living in the past when they would simply snap their fingers and most teams would get in line. The last 10 years have sadly exposed Ranger FC as having been run by disreputable individuals with borderline financial and moral skills.

Rangers FC; a large dose of humility and a sincere apology to Scottish Football is more appropriate!

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
deBear


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Yes that deserves a bigger audience that the tail end of an article

posted 2 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Call Sign: Invictus (U3627)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 55 seconds ago
Aye as I've already said.. the folk in charge at Caley just now are as dodgy as you can get. The club is also on its knees financially so they're coming from a position of desperation.

Wouldn't listen to much of what they have to say.
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How many clubs aren't desperate right now?
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Strip clubs
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Yeah, but they're now clothed...

<lithp>
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Superb work

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