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What will they come up with next?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52645339

Norwich now saying even if they finish the season and finish bottom they shouldn't be relegated unless the Championship finish the season.

They believe it's unfair to be relegated despite clearly deserving it because other teams unrelated to their season will have only played 37 games. Just 1 less than themselves.

I know no one wants to be relegated but have some dignity.

posted on 13/5/20

Tbf, you're not six-inches away from one another, breathing on each other, touching your face, then touching someone else etc, much easier to social distance in other jobs, it's literally impossible to do it with a contact sport
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Big factor is footballers will be tested though. Travelling to work in cars, only coming into contact with other players who have been tested. It's as safe as any profession can be.

posted on 13/5/20

The worst part with the whole situation is the players!..

They'll be getting tested but at the same time trusted to do the right things at home!..

If everything is done the way its meant to be, then when players come together there shouldn't be anything to spread, so, players at home have to help which it should be argued the most will!..

If it goes wrong it'll be down to people not doing as they should at home, and those people are the ones that'll be putting fellow professionals at risk!..

posted on 13/5/20

comment by Thor (U22388)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
"it believes that league points should always be earned on the field of play"

The key word for me here is "always". Surely that makes PPG a non-starter, based on their own ideas on how points must be earned?
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So should it be called as it stands?

After all, whatever a team has at the moment is what they've earned on the pitch, no?

If Norwich avoid relegation, will they have earned that on the pitch?
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It's all opinions, but in the worst case scenario of no more football this season, I'd rather they ended it as it stood than go down some fabricated PPG route. At the stage of the season we're at, the form book often goes out of the window and you see a lot of teams become resurgent beyond anything they've shown all season. If PPG had any merit at all, then we'd all be cleaning up on our accumulators after the 3/4 point of the season given it's an easy thing to predict who would beat who at that stage...or not.

I strongly believe the league campaigns should be completed in full or promotion or relegation should be a moot point. I know others more closely affected will have opposing viewpoints and I fully understand and respect those as, if my team had more riding on things, I would also be feeling hard done by right now, but we aren't and as ever, I will always try and give my honest opinion as a fan of football and not Huddersfield Town.

As per my example, the EFL have already stated in the last 5 years that points should always (wish I could bold and underline that) be earned on the pitch. Not sometimes, or in most cases, but always. Whilst the circumstances are vastly different from the example I used (had a bee in my bonnet about it then and still do), these are still their very own words and based on their opinion of where points go if a game is not completed. Changing that standpoint now is weak, but then this is the EFL we're talking about. They've shown plenty of times in the past they aren't fit for purpose.

posted on 13/5/20

comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by JonnyLosAngeles (My Dad was made in Leeds) עם ישראל חי (U9756)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Best Fans - ¡Leeds Carajo! (U2196)
posted 36 minutes ago
Playing football when 600 plus people are still dying daily is insanity.
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Thousands of people have gone back to work this week in non-essential jobs. Why is football any different?

The government said that if you can't work from home, go to work. Footballers can very feasibly go to a training ground and be safe.
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Yes this claim that football cannot be played because people have died is weird.

There were approx 500,000 deaths in the uk last year which means that on any given day there was an average of 1,370 deaths yet I have never heard anyone say that this is a reason for football to not take place.
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cos most deaths are not due to a virus which is contagious
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Nor are they now. Even if COVID deaths replaced ab equal number of other deaths then it would be 6oo out of 1370 or less than half. If COVID deaths were all additional deaths then it would be 600 out of about 1900 so not quite a third.

Either way the whole point is that there will be extensive testing and precautions taken before it is allowed to go ahead.

posted on 13/5/20

comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
promotion & relegation can only be if the season gets finished, no team deserves anything until all the results are in

l'pool do not deserve the title, we do not deserve promotion, norwich do not deserve relegation as it stands
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Wrong on all counts, kamara.👎

posted on 13/5/20

The championship play eight more games than the PL every season. I don’t see that being brought up....

posted on 13/5/20

comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
promotion & relegation can only be if the season gets finished, no team deserves anything until all the results are in

l'pool do not deserve the title, we do not deserve promotion, norwich do not deserve relegation as it stands
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Wrong on all counts, kamara.👎
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Would you still say the same if this had happened with one game to play?

What if all sides had played their games with the exception of a single mid table clash that had been postponed due to the FA cup final and at this stage the season was unable to continue?

posted on 13/5/20

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by JonnyLosAngeles (My Dad was made in Leeds) עם ישראל חי (U9756)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Best Fans - ¡Leeds Carajo! (U2196)
posted 36 minutes ago
Playing football when 600 plus people are still dying daily is insanity.
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Thousands of people have gone back to work this week in non-essential jobs. Why is football any different?

The government said that if you can't work from home, go to work. Footballers can very feasibly go to a training ground and be safe.
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Yes this claim that football cannot be played because people have died is weird.

There were approx 500,000 deaths in the uk last year which means that on any given day there was an average of 1,370 deaths yet I have never heard anyone say that this is a reason for football to not take place.
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It is a distraction type argument.

To make football safe at the Prem and Champ levels may requires 100k tests over the 5 week period needed to complete the season. This is a small number in comparison to the goal of 100k tests a day and the number of tests that would be needed for any other significant industry in the UK.

There will always be avoidable deaths in our lives, it is just part of life. The key is to reintroduce football in a safe manner for players, coaches, referees and other essential staff for games to be played.

posted on 13/5/20

comment by Lubo - Super Cooper! (U14008)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Best Fans - ¡Leeds Carajo! (U2196)
posted 41 minutes ago
Playing football when 600 plus people are still dying daily is insanity.
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Thousands of people have gone back to work this week in non-essential jobs. Why is football any different?

The government said that if you can't work from home, go to work. Footballers can very feasibly go to a training ground and be safe.
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Tbf, you're not six-inches away from one another, breathing on each other, touching your face, then touching someone else etc, much easier to social distance in other jobs, it's literally impossible to do it with a contact sport.

I think if the number of new infections were lower, like around the 100-150 per-day range, people would be more comfortable with it, but we're nowhere near that.

No crowds, self-isolating, numerous testing and now, turning your head away when you tackle, the football authorities are basically saying to players, "we know it's not safe but can you just get on with it anyway?"

There are people in "normal" jobs, who don't want to go back, there are people who haven't gone back even though their workplace is open, it's not like we've all gone flooding back the day after Boris' announcement, people, including sportsman, are still being cautious out of fears for their, and other people's, safety.
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Which is why football isn't kicking off tomorrow. These players are simply being asked to prepare to be ready to play in a month's time when, one would hope, we will all be looking at a return to normalcy.
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posted on 13/5/20

comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Kamara's left foot (U21862)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
promotion & relegation can only be if the season gets finished, no team deserves anything until all the results are in

l'pool do not deserve the title, we do not deserve promotion, norwich do not deserve relegation as it stands
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Wrong on all counts, kamara.👎
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Would you still say the same if this had happened with one game to play?

What if all sides had played their games with the exception of a single mid table clash that had been postponed due to the FA cup final and at this stage the season was unable to continue?
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There's almost a precedent set for that; they'd most likely play the game, let it get to 48 minutes then let the home fans run on the pitch and have the game abandoned. It would be declared the result stands at 0-0 as neither team is deemed important enough for them to give a shiny sh-te, and as one final poke in the eye, they'd not order any refund to the away team fans' expenses for a wasted trip to a nothing match. B-stards.

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