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Behind Closed Doors.

It may be because I missed live football, but yesterdays Bundesliga action wasn't all that bad.
Yes, it was weird with no crowd noise. The goal celebrations were awkward. The game I started watching, Dortmund vs Schalke, did start off slow and felt a bit pre-seasony (they haven't played for a couple of months).

However, once Dortmund hit their stride, I enjoyed the game. Turned over to the Leipzig - Freiburg game and saw Leipzig throw everything to get back in the game and then, after equalising, being saved from a last minute defeat by VAR. Then watched the start of the Frankfurt - Gladbach game, and Gladbach showed no signs of rust as they were 2 up in the first 8 minutes. That is about all I watched.

Of course it is better with fans. And maybe it was the joy of live football returning, that won't last, but I didn't think it was that bad.

The thought I won't be able to return to the Emirates even next season is a downer, after over a decade hiatus of not going it had become a regular part of my life again. But just to have football back is positive, even if it does cost me a few quid in daft bets.

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
You don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Personally I’ll only watch Liverpool and ROI games myself

Just stop fooking complaining about there being no football. If it’s that much of a big deal in your life then it’s time to reassess life’s priorities
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You only need to mention the season getting voided, to know Liverpool fans don't feel that way at all. Liverpool fans more than any others, want the season finished at any cost.

If anything, I'd count as complaining that people's lives are being risked purely to appease Sky and Liverpool fans (also the rest of a tiny minority, who were in a good league spot). Others all have nothing to gain from playing these games. Majority placed at risk, for a small minority to gain.

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

comment by Lucas Torreira (U8691)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 18 minutes ago
Completely souless nonsense.
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Completely necessary for the survival of clubs and the league.
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No it isn't. The club's whose very survival is at risk here are all non PL ones whom won't still won't be playing. This has nothing to do with the PL surviving and everything to do with plain old corporate greed.

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

Government should have stepped in and forced the TV companies to accept/write off the lost revenue. Everyone else in the damned country is taking a financial hit. They should be no different.

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

This has nothing to do with the PL surviving and everything to do with plain old corporate greed.

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100%

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
You don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Personally I’ll only watch Liverpool and ROI games myself

Just stop fooking complaining about there being no football. If it’s that much of a big deal in your life then it’s time to reassess life’s priorities
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You only need to mention the season getting voided, to know Liverpool fans don't feel that way at all. Liverpool fans more than any others, want the season finished at any cost.

If anything, I'd count as complaining that people's lives are being risked purely to appease Sky and Liverpool fans (also the rest of a tiny minority, who were in a good league spot). Others all have nothing to gain from playing these games. Majority placed at risk, for a small minority to gain.
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But why is it putting lives at risk? Players are being tested daily and anybody who tests positive or displays symptoms self isolate for 2/3 weeks or whatever the duration is now. I personally feel like it's being handled in quite a good manner because I know they say you can have it and not display symptoms for a certain time, but that is what the tests are for as well.

Don't see why there is such a big uproar because of it. I get it is very tragic that people are losing lives and people are losing family members and that, but what are we meant to do? Just down tools completely until a vaccine is found and then vaccinate all 60+ million of us when that would arrive within the next year? There has to be some plan to move forward and keep people's livelihood's going otherwise we won't have anything to come back to, businesses or hobbies.

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
You don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Personally I’ll only watch Liverpool and ROI games myself

Just stop fooking complaining about there being no football. If it’s that much of a big deal in your life then it’s time to reassess life’s priorities
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You only need to mention the season getting voided, to know Liverpool fans don't feel that way at all. Liverpool fans more than any others, want the season finished at any cost.

If anything, I'd count as complaining that people's lives are being risked purely to appease Sky and Liverpool fans (also the rest of a tiny minority, who were in a good league spot). Others all have nothing to gain from playing these games. Majority placed at risk, for a small minority to gain.
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But why is it putting lives at risk? Players are being tested daily and anybody who tests positive or displays symptoms self isolate for 2/3 weeks or whatever the duration is now. I personally feel like it's being handled in quite a good manner because I know they say you can have it and not display symptoms for a certain time, but that is what the tests are for as well.

Don't see why there is such a big uproar because of it. I get it is very tragic that people are losing lives and people are losing family members and that, but what are we meant to do? Just down tools completely until a vaccine is found and then vaccinate all 60+ million of us when that would arrive within the next year? There has to be some plan to move forward and keep people's livelihood's going otherwise we won't have anything to come back to, businesses or hobbies.
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Are players really being tested daily? Presumably coaching staff and officials too? That's bloody thousands of tests a week, in a time where we haven't been able to provide adequate tests to staff and patients in the NHS and nursing homes.. Sounds like putting lives at risk to me.

But hey at least the footy is coming back!

posted 1 week, 5 days ago

comment by TheSkins (U3865)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
You don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Personally I’ll only watch Liverpool and ROI games myself

Just stop fooking complaining about there being no football. If it’s that much of a big deal in your life then it’s time to reassess life’s priorities
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You only need to mention the season getting voided, to know Liverpool fans don't feel that way at all. Liverpool fans more than any others, want the season finished at any cost.

If anything, I'd count as complaining that people's lives are being risked purely to appease Sky and Liverpool fans (also the rest of a tiny minority, who were in a good league spot). Others all have nothing to gain from playing these games. Majority placed at risk, for a small minority to gain.
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But why is it putting lives at risk? Players are being tested daily and anybody who tests positive or displays symptoms self isolate for 2/3 weeks or whatever the duration is now. I personally feel like it's being handled in quite a good manner because I know they say you can have it and not display symptoms for a certain time, but that is what the tests are for as well.

Don't see why there is such a big uproar because of it. I get it is very tragic that people are losing lives and people are losing family members and that, but what are we meant to do? Just down tools completely until a vaccine is found and then vaccinate all 60+ million of us when that would arrive within the next year? There has to be some plan to move forward and keep people's livelihood's going otherwise we won't have anything to come back to, businesses or hobbies.
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Are players really being tested daily? Presumably coaching staff and officials too? That's bloody thousands of tests a week, in a time where we haven't been able to provide adequate tests to staff and patients in the NHS and nursing homes.. Sounds like putting lives at risk to me.

But hey at least the footy is coming back!
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I'd be pretty confident that they are all being tested daily, no evidence to suggest otherwise. What about when we are testing key workers and all these other "100,000 tests" a day to the general public as well as teachers and other ordinary people? Or does that not count as people who are using tests that could be used on NHS staff because they aren't footballers? Getting sick of this stigma about footballers because of what it is, they are still people as well.

A sport that millions of people worldwide will watch daily and will keep people indoors which is one of the core messages of the government.

posted 1 week, 4 days ago

comment by TheSkins (U3865)
posted 12 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
You don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Personally I’ll only watch Liverpool and ROI games myself

Just stop fooking complaining about there being no football. If it’s that much of a big deal in your life then it’s time to reassess life’s priorities
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You only need to mention the season getting voided, to know Liverpool fans don't feel that way at all. Liverpool fans more than any others, want the season finished at any cost.

If anything, I'd count as complaining that people's lives are being risked purely to appease Sky and Liverpool fans (also the rest of a tiny minority, who were in a good league spot). Others all have nothing to gain from playing these games. Majority placed at risk, for a small minority to gain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But why is it putting lives at risk? Players are being tested daily and anybody who tests positive or displays symptoms self isolate for 2/3 weeks or whatever the duration is now. I personally feel like it's being handled in quite a good manner because I know they say you can have it and not display symptoms for a certain time, but that is what the tests are for as well.

Don't see why there is such a big uproar because of it. I get it is very tragic that people are losing lives and people are losing family members and that, but what are we meant to do? Just down tools completely until a vaccine is found and then vaccinate all 60+ million of us when that would arrive within the next year? There has to be some plan to move forward and keep people's livelihood's going otherwise we won't have anything to come back to, businesses or hobbies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are players really being tested daily? Presumably coaching staff and officials too? That's bloody thousands of tests a week, in a time where we haven't been able to provide adequate tests to staff and patients in the NHS and nursing homes.. Sounds like putting lives at risk to me.

But hey at least the footy is coming back!
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There has always been capacity in the private sector. I know of several clients who were testing a lot of their workforce, sending the tests to private labs and even to Germany from here in London.

The capacity in this country is quite a lot as well. The problem is the actual infrastructure to do the tests. And it still is even with mobile units etc. Thats why they started self-testing with those kits through the post.

posted 1 week, 4 days ago

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by TheSkins (U3865)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 2 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
You don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Personally I’ll only watch Liverpool and ROI games myself

Just stop fooking complaining about there being no football. If it’s that much of a big deal in your life then it’s time to reassess life’s priorities
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You only need to mention the season getting voided, to know Liverpool fans don't feel that way at all. Liverpool fans more than any others, want the season finished at any cost.

If anything, I'd count as complaining that people's lives are being risked purely to appease Sky and Liverpool fans (also the rest of a tiny minority, who were in a good league spot). Others all have nothing to gain from playing these games. Majority placed at risk, for a small minority to gain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But why is it putting lives at risk? Players are being tested daily and anybody who tests positive or displays symptoms self isolate for 2/3 weeks or whatever the duration is now. I personally feel like it's being handled in quite a good manner because I know they say you can have it and not display symptoms for a certain time, but that is what the tests are for as well.

Don't see why there is such a big uproar because of it. I get it is very tragic that people are losing lives and people are losing family members and that, but what are we meant to do? Just down tools completely until a vaccine is found and then vaccinate all 60+ million of us when that would arrive within the next year? There has to be some plan to move forward and keep people's livelihood's going otherwise we won't have anything to come back to, businesses or hobbies.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are players really being tested daily? Presumably coaching staff and officials too? That's bloody thousands of tests a week, in a time where we haven't been able to provide adequate tests to staff and patients in the NHS and nursing homes.. Sounds like putting lives at risk to me.

But hey at least the footy is coming back!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be pretty confident that they are all being tested daily, no evidence to suggest otherwise. What about when we are testing key workers and all these other "100,000 tests" a day to the general public as well as teachers and other ordinary people? Or does that not count as people who are using tests that could be used on NHS staff because they aren't footballers? Getting sick of this stigma about footballers because of what it is, they are still people as well.

A sport that millions of people worldwide will watch daily and will keep people indoors which is one of the core messages of the government.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's nothing against them, just the idea of footballers (or any sportspeople) now seeming to be essential workers that grates with me. Football, no matter how much we like it, is not absolutely necessary for society to function. Nurses and doctors... probably are.

I am actually glad it's back, but if we're honest with ourselves, there's no real valid argument for starting up football again until the risks have significantly decreased (i.e. a vaccine or sufficient herd immunity or whatever). "It keeps people indoors" is bollox, people shouldn't need football to be f*cking sensible and do what's right. Any kind of economic argument falls flat too, considering that the only money being generated is going to be by broadcasters and bookies. Besides, even a fully functioning football economy with actual fans and everything wouldn't scratch the surface of what small busineses are currently not able to provide for the country anyway.

posted 1 week, 4 days ago

No you're right it's not necessary but it's still a job for some people, so they have to go back to work. What about the people that work behind the scenes? Right so we don't start up football again until a vaccine is found, but some clubs won't be able to afford keeping backroom staff on (such as chefs, stewards etc) so that they be made redundant and they lose their job? What does that do to the economy when unemployment increases massively?

I'm not saying people should need football, I'm saying it's something that will keep people indoors. We all know that we should adhere to what the government is saying, but watching football for a few hours makes life a little bit more bearable in the house for a day. You have to bring things back at some point, so why not bring football back where it is safe to do so? Its still one industry that won't be furloughing people anymore, so that takes some pressure off the government for a start.

Like I say, you have to start somewhere, so why not bring back football where it is safe to do so, like it is at the moment presumably. If we just sit here and wait for a vaccine, like I said, what are we going to come back to?

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