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Govt. vanity projects

Refurb of Palaces of Westminster-£4bn - more like £8bn+

HS2 was £40bn, latest estimate £100bn, reality could be 140bn+

Time to scrub these vanity projects and get our basic society and healthcare properly funded 👍

posted on 22/5/20

Who in their right mind would believe Corbyn.
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comment by Miller (U9310)

posted on 23/5/20

comment by council bin man (U21986)
posted 4 hours, 40 minutes ago
I've watched Scottish government pour money down the drain on the tram here in Edinburgh. Plenty of other examples of vanity projects too. Someone needs to take a look at these
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I might be wrong but I think that was Edinburgh City Council

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 5 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by council bin man (U21986)
posted 4 hours, 40 minutes ago
I've watched Scottish government pour money down the drain on the tram here in Edinburgh. Plenty of other examples of vanity projects too. Someone needs to take a look at these
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I might be wrong but I think that was Edinburgh City Council
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Indeed, the minority (at the time) SNP gov tried to kill the project but were defeated but escaped with capping the public money used. A good decision given the decade of cost overruns, contractor changes, route cancellations and public unrest that followed involving the car-hating ECC.

Perversely, I think it is the ‘kind’ of large project I approve of in principle. The issue we often face is the overly optimistic initial cost estimate in order to get the project off the ground and started in the hope that once the inevitable risks become issues we are too fully invested to call a halt and the realistic costs escalate. Another issue is the consortia / partnership structure of too many deals that leads to finger pointing when things go wrong.

posted on 23/5/20

A government work program may be required to get the economy back on track

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Demented Joe Hiding v Orange Baffoon (U21917)
posted 55 minutes ago
A government work program may be required to get the economy back on track
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We’ll need a hell of a lot more than that.

posted on 23/5/20

I don’t think the upkeep of historical buildings or improvements in the transport infrastructure are vanity projects

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 23/5/20

Yes and no, duke.

Our history attracts tourists, no more so than in London. WM is iconic, no doubt. But £8bn is 5% of our total UK health spend on a sinking and crumbling building that is wholly criticised for not being fit for purpose! it would go a very long way to build an equally iconic replacement, perhaps retaining Big Ben? Doesn't solve the issue of being underwater once the ice cap melts but I guess we'll have bigger concerns by then?

posted on 23/5/20

Speaking of vanity projects..

I see Morelos reckons Liverpool are looking at him.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 40 minutes ago
Yes and no, duke.

Our history attracts tourists, no more so than in London. WM is iconic, no doubt. But £8bn is 5% of our total UK health spend on a sinking and crumbling building that is wholly criticised for not being fit for purpose! it would go a very long way to build an equally iconic replacement, perhaps retaining Big Ben? Doesn't solve the issue of being underwater once the ice cap melts but I guess we'll have bigger concerns by then?
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It is a fek off ridiculous amount of money
Not sure on time scale for it
But where do we draw a line on heritage

Windsor Edinburgh castles must cost to keep up

I’m sure in time we woukd regret not looking after the past

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 23/5/20

The places you mention are in a different league to the many listed crumbling ruins around the country. If the 'historic agencies' had their way nothing would ever get knocked down and nothing would ever move on with the times.

If something is uneconomic to use or maintain properly then we ought to be confident enough to be brutal else the result is decay. Old and new!
- Lennox castle
- Gothic high kirk also Lennoxtown
- The ambulance centre at Cowcaddens
- A fooking gas tower in Edinburgh
- Mecca bingo in Leith

2315 buildings in Scotland alone. https://www.buildingsatrisk.org.uk/

Hobby horses of mine are Union Street and Sauchiehall St from Charing X to Cowcaddens. Since the demise of retail, maybe longer, both have been absolute dumps. Yeah, Union St has some interesting Victoriana but we are not exactly short of it in the city.

Flatten both! Retail is done anyway, let's not pretend. Union Street can either build a fancy extension for cross-border rail, adding needed capacity to Central and / or another big cafe culture square for evening entertainment which is largely what the city is to many people now.

Sauchiehall St make it a green, park corridor all the way from Kelvingrove into the city - join the west end. Knock down some of the grotty terraces at Woodlands - more white elephants of buildings few people want or need. In fact extend that green walkway to Union street then along the Clyde to the green and the cycle paths that converge there.

We need vision of where we are going, not where we have been.

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