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Premier league restarts June 17th

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8365777/Premier-League-clubs-agree-June-20-restart-season-football-FINALLY-set-return.html


I did tell you Sandy was spot on with my June prediction. Anyway, none of us want football without fans, but at this moment in time, we have no choice. I would rather have football than none and they are going through the right measures to test players, so it’s deemed safe for everyone involved. I have absolutely no issue with it whatsoever. Will be nice to see the footy back on the screen again, even if it won’t quite be the same with empty stadiums. We crack on with this, then get prepared for the new season. All good with me, roll on June 17th and roll on some normality back in our lives in the near future.

posted on 31/5/20

Those of you who think testing football players twice a week is going to be a panacea for the restart should read some scientific analyses of the reliability of COVID_19 tests.
Turns out false negatives are a real problem, particularly for healthcare workers who have to deal with possibly infected patients.

"Sam Torbati, MD, co-director of the Ruth and Harry Roman Emergency Department at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, had similar concerns, especially after reading papers suggesting the swab tests in use today have a 70% sensitivity. "That means that 30% of people who have the disease will test negative, and from a front-line standpoint, the concept that we have a test that will help us rule people in and out is not actually accurate."

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86047

I just had a negative test yesterday! Hope my doctor feels confident when I face her tomorrow!

posted on 1/6/20

You conveniently left out the remainder of my post to try and give your comment more credence than it deserves.

As well as the twice a week tests, they are provisioned support to stop their contact with the outside world.

When you are living and encapsulated in the same conditions as a premier league footballer let us know.

When is your next test? In 3 days time or you don’t know?

Don’t paint yourself into a corner ted, otherwise we will just call you t!t

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
You conveniently left out the remainder of my post to try and give your comment more credence than it deserves.

As well as the twice a week tests, they are provisioned support to stop their contact with the outside world.

When you are living and encapsulated in the same conditions as a premier league footballer let us know.

When is your next test? In 3 days time or you don’t know?

Don’t paint yourself into a corner ted, otherwise we will just call you t!t
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You dont seem to understand, the tests are not very accurate, false negatives quite frequent.
Lets wait and see, shall we....aroud early July!

posted on 1/6/20

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 7 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
You saw nothing hypocritical about Mings saying he thinks footballers are treated like commodities?

Wouldn’t be saying that if Villa weren’t threatened by relegation, if they were in the running for a European place instead of the spectre of relegation he would be getting on with it

The premier league players are tested twice a week and being hosted in basically sealed accommodation.

If I can steer clear of contracting the virus like the other 59m people in the U.K., the footballers can with these special provisions.
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The FA has not changed any rules of the game, have they?
So close contact is going to happen .... for 90 minutes.
No social distancing at all. Asymptomatic spreaders will have an effect.
Watch for the infection stats somewhere around July 1st.
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If they have it they won’t be on the pitch so how can they spread it. If you’re asymptotic you still test positive. Not one player has spread it in Germany in 3 weeks so why would it be any different here. They’re literally playing in one of the most controlled environments in any profession in the world. And the fact you think that any outbreak would impact stats from July 1st is genuinely laughable.

posted on 1/6/20

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
You conveniently left out the remainder of my post to try and give your comment more credence than it deserves.

As well as the twice a week tests, they are provisioned support to stop their contact with the outside world.

When you are living and encapsulated in the same conditions as a premier league footballer let us know.

When is your next test? In 3 days time or you don’t know?

Don’t paint yourself into a corner ted, otherwise we will just call you t!t
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You dont seem to understand, the tests are not very accurate, false negatives quite frequent.
Lets wait and see, shall we....aroud early July!
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They’re not frequent. It’s around 92%. And with 2 tests on one person it is 99.4% and three tests is 100%. These players will be tested around 20-25 times before the end of the season. You’re literally talking rubbish.

posted on 1/6/20

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
You conveniently left out the remainder of my post to try and give your comment more credence than it deserves.

As well as the twice a week tests, they are provisioned support to stop their contact with the outside world.

When you are living and encapsulated in the same conditions as a premier league footballer let us know.

When is your next test? In 3 days time or you don’t know?

Don’t paint yourself into a corner ted, otherwise we will just call you t!t
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You dont seem to understand, the tests are not very accurate, false negatives quite frequent.
Lets wait and see, shall we....aroud early July!
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“Not very accurate” - let’s have your figures on their accuracy rate ..?

Exactly what are you hoping to be right about early July? A mass of new infections among footballers who are plying their trade or a rise in infections generally?

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 14 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
You conveniently left out the remainder of my post to try and give your comment more credence than it deserves.

As well as the twice a week tests, they are provisioned support to stop their contact with the outside world.

When you are living and encapsulated in the same conditions as a premier league footballer let us know.

When is your next test? In 3 days time or you don’t know?

Don’t paint yourself into a corner ted, otherwise we will just call you t!t
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You dont seem to understand, the tests are not very accurate, false negatives quite frequent.
Lets wait and see, shall we....aroud early July!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Not very accurate” - let’s have your figures on their accuracy rate ..?

Exactly what are you hoping to be right about early July? A mass of new infections among footballers who are plying their trade or a rise in infections generally?
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Depends upon which study you read. Generally speaking one can expect a false negative rate of somewhere between 5 - 15%.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86047

Other studies, done in UK, have found only 60%-70% of COVID positive patients being detected by the usual tests..

Depends upon the test. Nasal swab is not only not very accurate, but is also a damned uncomfortable procedure. I doubt football players will put up with frequent tests for very long.
Try it yourself and see!

posted on 1/6/20

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 14 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
You conveniently left out the remainder of my post to try and give your comment more credence than it deserves.

As well as the twice a week tests, they are provisioned support to stop their contact with the outside world.

When you are living and encapsulated in the same conditions as a premier league footballer let us know.

When is your next test? In 3 days time or you don’t know?

Don’t paint yourself into a corner ted, otherwise we will just call you t!t
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You dont seem to understand, the tests are not very accurate, false negatives quite frequent.
Lets wait and see, shall we....aroud early July!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Not very accurate” - let’s have your figures on their accuracy rate ..?

Exactly what are you hoping to be right about early July? A mass of new infections among footballers who are plying their trade or a rise in infections generally?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Depends upon which study you read. Generally speaking one can expect a false negative rate of somewhere between 5 - 15%.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86047

Other studies, done in UK, have found only 60%-70% of COVID positive patients being detected by the usual tests..

Depends upon the test. Nasal swab is not only not very accurate, but is also a damned uncomfortable procedure. I doubt football players will put up with frequent tests for very long.
Try it yourself and see!
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ffs.

posted on 16/6/20

comment by Jurgen Klopp (U1282)
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
You can watch the Bundesliga right now.
And here's a prediction for you.......
After the restart on June 17th...enough players will get sick that it will all be stopped again.
Consequently the start of the 2021 season will be put on hold.
There are examples occuring now....of precincts, counties, cities, that have opened up too soon......
and are now having to close down again.
Stay tuned!!!
Beware what you wish for...
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OK, well stay tuned and see whether this comes to pass.
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Can't wait to see this

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