I always think you can learn from history whatever walk of life you are in, and football is no different. At the moment Liverpool are officially the best club football team in the world...show us you medals! !. ...well there you go fella we can say.
However, in order to win more and get better.....and tbh we can't get much better, but it is true we can also get better; we MUST add real quality when at the top of your game...literally in Liverpools case.
So back to city who are a a great comparison, they lost Kompany had Sane injured then lost Laporte and a few other injuries, but arguably their biggest loss was Kompany who simply left....and they did nothing to fill his void; and imo it cost them competing for the title and may cost them further yet.
Liverpool are likely to lose Lallana, I think sturridge is already gone and Milner is 33 I think....now is the time to learn from city and get quality replacements, don't dither and certainly do not do nothing!!
Timo Werner, O Dembele or even Mbappe would be great added to our squad and would compliment Minamino and Keita who hopefully can both settle now and get a run of games.
So let's hope we get some of the quality mentioned in and scare the sht out of the rest of the league
Let's not repeat city's mistakes.
posted on 31/5/20
You didn’t say Liverpool lost 27 points. You said Watford gained 27 points.
posted on 31/5/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 33 seconds ago
You didn’t say Liverpool lost 27 points. You said Watford gained 27 points.
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It is the same things. Points are transferred from the losing team to the winning team.
posted on 31/5/20
So how is the figure (27) attained?
Why is it 27 points for Watford beating Liverpool?
Why not 26, 25, whatever number?
posted on 31/5/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 54 seconds ago
So how is the figure (27) attained?
Why is it 27 points for Watford beating Liverpool?
Why not 26, 25, whatever number?
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I've given you the website, which has all of the formulas they use on it.
posted on 31/5/20
I’ve also quoted from the website, which counters your point about the quality of opppnent, especially when different leagues are taken into account.
posted on 31/5/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 2 minutes ago
I’ve also quoted from the website, which counters your point about the quality of opppnent, especially when different leagues are taken into account.
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I don't think you have. The quote you gave literally emphasises how indispensable it is to have a measure that takes quality of opposition into account.
posted on 31/5/20
And how is that quality judged across leagues, when the vast majority of, sat, the PL won’t play the vast majority of teams in Spain, of Italy, or Hungary, or wherever?
How can it be accurately said that a defeat to Watford means a deduction of 27 points for Liverpool, compared to, say, however many points Madrid are deducted for a defeat against a lower Spanish team?
What about form? How does that play a part? Liverpool playing Watford earlier in the season was a different proposition to them playing Watford more recently.
And it’s not just the form of the opposition (Watford). But the form of Liverpool at that point.
And what about injuries? Or resting players because they have a (more important) CL game coming up?
Too many variables for me to render this points based season of any value.
posted on 31/5/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 7 minutes ago
And how is that quality judged across leagues, when the vast majority of, sat, the PL won’t play the vast majority of teams in Spain, of Italy, or Hungary, or wherever?
How can it be accurately said that a defeat to Watford means a deduction of 27 points for Liverpool, compared to, say, however many points Madrid are deducted for a defeat against a lower Spanish team?
What about form? How does that play a part? Liverpool playing Watford earlier in the season was a different proposition to them playing Watford more recently.
And it’s not just the form of the opposition (Watford). But the form of Liverpool at that point.
And what about injuries? Or resting players because they have a (more important) CL game coming up?
Too many variables for me to render this points based season of any value.
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Because european competition exists. So Atletico Madrid play a top team like Liverpool and win (thus gaining a decent chunk of points and increasing their rating). If they then lose to Real Betis in the league then some of those points are transferred to Betis (more points than if A Madrid had lost to Liverpool).
The deductions are based on a formula that is based on the points that both teams have at the time. As long as the formula is applied equally to every team then it is fair.
Form is just a word used to describe someone's recent results. This does the same thing. If you win 5 games in a row you are in good form (and will have gained more points in this system than if you lost some if those games). If the 6th team beats you then they will likely gain more points than if they had beaten you after 5 other losses. Therefore it takes form into account more than the league system does.
Your other points (resting players or injuries) apply to every other single system as well. You beat a team in the league because the are missing 3 top players, you still get 3 points. Injuries are part of the game and managing that is part of a teams quality.
posted on 31/5/20
Just back to the op, we’ve won four titles in the last ten years and I’m very recent history won two back to back. We’ve rebuilt positions throughout those wins so I’m not sure repeating our “mistakes” is a bad thing...
posted on 31/5/20
Mbappe won't happen as the kid is on insane wages at such an early age, only real/barca could probably match them, along with the fee required.
Dembele has been so plagued with injuries it'd be a huge punt.
I think havertz is worth investing in, sancho and maybe a young quality lb. Havertz and sancho would never happen at the same time though.
Elliot is def good enough to fill the minutes lallana and shaquiri played. Grujic would give cover for fabinho.
Adrian cost Liverpool against atheltico and it'd make sense to try and get a young player who I'd an improvement there.