Hypocrites

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 25 minutes ago
so what about...

Justine Ruszczyk
Brandon Stanley
Daniel Shaver
James Scott

the list goes on of unarmed white people killed by the police, often by black police officers.

there is a major issue with police brutality but to now try make it all about race is ludicrous.
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Although an element of it is down to police brutality in general and also gun control laws in the US playing a major part, that doesn’t detract from the killing of unarmed suspects when compared to armed suspects shows a big increase of black people being killed compared to white.

If you really think that’s the debate that’s needed though, then you’re completely missing the real issues and only dealing with the symptoms. As much as police brutality and us gun control laws are root causes, so is racism. The root cause of the racism then also differs and has its own root causes.


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the thing is take race out of it.

look at economic background of the suspects killed, the neighborhoods they were shot in.

this is not about race it is about the polices view of poor people.

they roll into neighborhood instantly expecting the people they engage are up to no good.

when you actually look at it from an economic background and not a racial background the trend is far more damning than the racial factor.

sadly due to the segregation f neighborhoods in the US, the black people in their poor neighborhoods harassed by police think it because they are black not because they are poor and statistically more likely to be involved with crime.

The same applies to the hispanic neighborhoods and the white trash neighborhoods. the whites cannot say anything due to white guilt and th Hispanics have far less of a voice in modern day US than the blacks do predominantly due to the rise of black celebrities and sports stars as opposed to hispanics.

if the races were all mixed into poor neighborhoods they would see they're all oppressed and harassed by the police due to their economic status and see each other being harassed and realize its not about skin, its about $
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You're deluded.

comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 8 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
so what about...

Justine Ruszczyk
Brandon Stanley
Daniel Shaver
James Scott

the list goes on of unarmed white people killed by the police, often by black police officers.

there is a major issue with police brutality but to now try make it all about race is ludicrous.
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Odd post tbh.

Black people are stopped by Police at a higher rate than white people in the US, and Minneapolis police are seven times more likely to use force against a black person than a white person, in Chicago, it’s 14 times more likely.

If they were ALL gang members it’d be fine, but we know from reports that isn’t the case. Police brutality happens to all races in the US, but it appears one race is targeted more than than others.

Also, the examples you gave are frankly bizarre:

Justine Ruszczyk - The Somalian cop who shot her was sentenced to 12 years in prison, not suspended, actual jail time.

Brandon Stanley - Was shot by a white constable who was charged with reckless homicide and had no formal law enforcement training.

Daniel Shaver - Shaver was shot by a white cop and it went to trial, he was acquitted.

James Scott - There’s very little about this online, there’s a story on Facebook about a black guy named James Scott Reed who was killed in his home by police after they went to the wrong house...he was black.

Are these really the go-to, “it’s not a race thing” examples?

I think if you see people protesting (not the looters, just the protesters) about systemic racism, in the US in general not solely about law enforcement, and your response is “but what about” or “yeah, but” you need to have a word with yourself.


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👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Exactly. Sick of the all lives matter lot

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 25 minutes ago
so what about...

Justine Ruszczyk
Brandon Stanley
Daniel Shaver
James Scott

the list goes on of unarmed white people killed by the police, often by black police officers.

there is a major issue with police brutality but to now try make it all about race is ludicrous.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Although an element of it is down to police brutality in general and also gun control laws in the US playing a major part, that doesn’t detract from the killing of unarmed suspects when compared to armed suspects shows a big increase of black people being killed compared to white.

If you really think that’s the debate that’s needed though, then you’re completely missing the real issues and only dealing with the symptoms. As much as police brutality and us gun control laws are root causes, so is racism. The root cause of the racism then also differs and has its own root causes.


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the thing is take race out of it.

look at economic background of the suspects killed, the neighborhoods they were shot in.

this is not about race it is about the polices view of poor people.

they roll into neighborhood instantly expecting the people they engage are up to no good.

when you actually look at it from an economic background and not a racial background the trend is far more damning than the racial factor.

sadly due to the segregation f neighborhoods in the US, the black people in their poor neighborhoods harassed by police think it because they are black not because they are poor and statistically more likely to be involved with crime.

The same applies to the hispanic neighborhoods and the white trash neighborhoods. the whites cannot say anything due to white guilt and th Hispanics have far less of a voice in modern day US than the blacks do predominantly due to the rise of black celebrities and sports stars as opposed to hispanics.

if the races were all mixed into poor neighborhoods they would see they're all oppressed and harassed by the police due to their economic status and see each other being harassed and realize its not about skin, its about $
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There is a lot of truth to this. The elites that run the world don't care about poor whites either, think back to medieval england as an example. And what they have done now is make poor whites think black people and other ethnicities are the enemy, make us fight amongst each other instead of them. Divide and conquer.

Say theres a cake with 10 slices. Elites have 9, poor whites have 1. Then the "immigrants" come and the whites are told, "the immigrants are taking ur cake. You now have to share that one slice. Hate the immigrants". All the while the elites still have their 9 slices that nobody knows about.

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 25 minutes ago
so what about...

Justine Ruszczyk
Brandon Stanley
Daniel Shaver
James Scott

the list goes on of unarmed white people killed by the police, often by black police officers.

there is a major issue with police brutality but to now try make it all about race is ludicrous.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Although an element of it is down to police brutality in general and also gun control laws in the US playing a major part, that doesn’t detract from the killing of unarmed suspects when compared to armed suspects shows a big increase of black people being killed compared to white.

If you really think that’s the debate that’s needed though, then you’re completely missing the real issues and only dealing with the symptoms. As much as police brutality and us gun control laws are root causes, so is racism. The root cause of the racism then also differs and has its own root causes.


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the thing is take race out of it.

look at economic background of the suspects killed, the neighborhoods they were shot in.

this is not about race it is about the polices view of poor people.

they roll into neighborhood instantly expecting the people they engage are up to no good.

when you actually look at it from an economic background and not a racial background the trend is far more damning than the racial factor.

sadly due to the segregation f neighborhoods in the US, the black people in their poor neighborhoods harassed by police think it because they are black not because they are poor and statistically more likely to be involved with crime.

The same applies to the hispanic neighborhoods and the white trash neighborhoods. the whites cannot say anything due to white guilt and th Hispanics have far less of a voice in modern day US than the blacks do predominantly due to the rise of black celebrities and sports stars as opposed to hispanics.

if the races were all mixed into poor neighborhoods they would see they're all oppressed and harassed by the police due to their economic status and see each other being harassed and realize its not about skin, its about $
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Well at least you’re looking at the root causes I suppose. You cannot take race out of it though, it needs to be considered as well as.

“ look at economic background of the suspects killed, the neighborhoods they were shot in.”

What could possibly be the reason for people living in certain poor economic backgrounds?

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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 11 seconds ago
America can’t lecture anyone. Their country was born from genocide and its foundations the bones of slaves. They are no better than Russia, China, Saudi etc
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Bit over dramatic as usual Nohlman

The US is far from perfect and has some very real problems but it’s better than the countries you mentioned. Go to those countries and criticise them and see what happens to you.

comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 16 minutes ago
America can’t lecture anyone. Their country was born from genocide and its foundations the bones of slaves. They are no better than Russia, China, Saudi etc
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Wonder if this fella has heard of the British empire

comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 16 minutes ago
America can’t lecture anyone. Their country was born from genocide and its foundations the bones of slaves. They are no better than Russia, China, Saudi etc
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Wonder if this fella has heard of the British empire
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Fair point. At the same time we’re not the ones giving ourselves the ridiculous title leaders of the free world whilst the country goes to shiite.

Maybe US politicians should stop lecturing the rest of the world about democracy, and the virtues of the US, and get their own house in order first.

Brave men in blue aiming mace at a woman and her baby.

https://twitter.com/wooperyoongi/status/1268392768939966469?s=21