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Out of 10, how well has Guardiola done

In 4 years, at Man City Guardiolas has won:

2/4 league titles
0/3 Champions Leagues
a bunch of domestic cups.

Looking at the facts, you have to say he hasn't done that well. The league titles were won in a very dominant way, but I think a lot of managers would have won 2 league titles in 4 years with Manchester City and the resources they have. The domestic cups are a big plus but that doesn't make up for his total failure to win the Champions league.

He's built a (until this season at least) great team, but they haven't achieved enough in my opinion. I give him a 6/10 overall. It would have been 8/10 before this current season. What do you think?

posted on 4/6/20

But it was for two seasons. He’s been there for four. I don’t think winning the league cup three times with City’s squad is that impressive. Pep’s an elite manager and had an elite team, the league and CL will always been the main prize.

Look at the United team with Ronaldo. They talk about the title wins, CL win and even CL final before they do the league cup wins in 06 and 09.

posted on 4/6/20

But it was for two seasons. He’s been there for four. I don’t think winning the league cup three times with City’s squad is that impressive.
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Winning the league with 100 points and 106 goals is something no other manager has achieved.

Retaining it the following season plus doing a clean sweep of the other 3 domestic trophies is also a unique feat, Klopp was the only other PL Manager to actually win something.

This disjointed season isn't over yet, he's 2nd in the league, he's won the CS and the Carabao Cup plus the Champions League ambition is still alive and kicking.

You're happy with Ole, we're happy with Pep.

Everyone has their own targets and expectations.

posted on 4/6/20

Your points don’t really refute what I’m saying.

posted on 5/6/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
That All or Nothing series told you everything you needed to know about the Liverpool game.

Unseen footage of the attack on the team bus and Amazon actually highlighted the glaring refereeing 'mistakes' rather than ignoring them like the mainstream media.
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You were thrashed 5-1 and your only goal came from a foul ffs. Refereeing mistakes.
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Liverpool going through was fair result. But come on toor if we go in 2 up at HT that was game on for the final 45.
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Of course it was game on but that doesnt change the fact you're blaming the refereeing after being thrashed 5-1 and your only goal came from a foul.
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All I said was it was fine margins, and that had that goal stood it could of been another story. Which is true, I don’t think the aggregate tells the full story. That fixture was riddled with refereeing errors tbh too, not really interested in going over them all. As I said Liverpool went through as worthy in the end.

posted on 5/6/20

comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
That All or Nothing series told you everything you needed to know about the Liverpool game.

Unseen footage of the attack on the team bus and Amazon actually highlighted the glaring refereeing 'mistakes' rather than ignoring them like the mainstream media.
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You were thrashed 5-1 and your only goal came from a foul ffs. Refereeing mistakes.
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Liverpool going through was fair result. But come on toor if we go in 2 up at HT that was game on for the final 45.
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Of course it was game on but that doesnt change the fact you're blaming the refereeing after being thrashed 5-1 and your only goal came from a foul.
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All I said was it was fine margins, and that had that goal stood it could of been another story. Which is true, I don’t think the aggregate tells the full story. That fixture was riddled with refereeing errors tbh too, not really interested in going over them all. As I said Liverpool went through as worthy in the end.
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I agree the scoreline didn't tell the full story as you weren't as bad as 5-1 suggests but to blame the referee after a 5-1 thrashing over two legs, especially after your only goal actually came from a foul, is ridiculous.

posted on 5/6/20

All I said was it was fine margins
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3-0 at home and 1-2 at your own place. I wouldn't call that a fine margin.

posted on 5/6/20

It was 3-0 at Anfield, not 5-1.

posted on 5/6/20

comment by Jurgen Klopp (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
All I said was it was fine margins
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3-0 at home and 1-2 at your own place. I wouldn't call that a fine margin.
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The fine margin comment was a direct reference to us possibly going in 2-0 up at HT. I think you probably know that though and that’s why you’ve decided to cut out the rest of the comment.

posted on 5/6/20

Abysmal for the money spent

posted on 5/6/20

comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Jurgen Klopp (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
All I said was it was fine margins
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3-0 at home and 1-2 at your own place. I wouldn't call that a fine margin.
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The fine margin comment was a direct reference to us possibly going in 2-0 up at HT. I think you probably know that though and that’s why you’ve decided to cut out the rest of the comment.
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You could day the same for most games. This is pure straw clutching. There's was no fine margin there.

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