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Jose v Tim

I stumbled across some stats for our last caretaker manager who came in mid season, super Tim

Tim Sherwood inherited a far inferior team, had no managerial experience with an ego only matched by our specialist in failure. How did he fare in the PL then?

Sherwood: P22 W13 D3 L6 PPG 1.91
Mourinho: P20 W9 D4 L7 PPG 1.55

Sherwood gave opportunities to young players and played attacking football, but didn't achieve top 4 and was shown the door.

Under Jose we play dreadful football, and results are getting worse as he gets more time on the training field. Let's not forget our cup results under him, losing at home to a woeful Norwich then accepting a slaughtering by champions league novices, Leipzig.

There are no positives to Jose's reign so far. Defensively we're as bad as ever. Please can somebody give me a reason why he should not be sacked other than he used to be a good manager and our form in the league was poor under poch?

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 3/7/20

comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Phenom(U20037)

posted 4 minutes ago

you have to say Poch was still asking for the sack at times

No I don't.
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playing Son Lb in a FA cup semi final comes close

posted on 3/7/20

We have no choice but to stick with Jose, as much as I didnt want him or fit him to leave now. But Levy is stuck with him til the end of next season as a minimum

posted on 3/7/20

comment by SgtWilko (U12059)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not many were saying it. I remember as I questioned it myself. Admittedly, I didn’t think things would go this badly, but I was surprised at how many Spurs fans were saying what an excellent transfer window you had despite failing to address any of your big weaknesses.

Poch is culpable for that. And it’s cost him his job.
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Poch partly responsible. No director of football and a chairman focused on the stadium build. So basically the chief scout randomly picking a few players. Shambles
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But the issue here is that the money that was invested in the squad was invested in the wrong areas of the pitch.

I know it’s easy to say in hindsight, but those weaknesses were obvious anyway, and the attacking quality of the players you signed can’t paper of the cracks for another season.

I wouldn’t put this all on Levy. Poch needs to take the blame for this.

posted on 3/7/20

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posted on 3/7/20

comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by SgtWilko (U12059)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not many were saying it. I remember as I questioned it myself. Admittedly, I didn’t think things would go this badly, but I was surprised at how many Spurs fans were saying what an excellent transfer window you had despite failing to address any of your big weaknesses.

Poch is culpable for that. And it’s cost him his job.
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Poch partly responsible. No director of football and a chairman focused on the stadium build. So basically the chief scout randomly picking a few players. Shambles
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But the issue here is that the money that was invested in the squad was invested in the wrong areas of the pitch.

I know it’s easy to say in hindsight, but those weaknesses were obvious anyway, and the attacking quality of the players you signed can’t paper of the cracks for another season.

I wouldn’t put this all on Levy. Poch needs to take the blame for this.
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Pochettino said enough times - often very frustratedly in press conferences - that he didn't get the final say on transfers. He named targets, yes, but whether or not he got them wasn't up to him at all.

posted on 3/7/20

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posted on 3/7/20

He’s massively responsible.

Amanda, I’m not saying he has the final say on all the transfers. But he has a say on what positions you need to address. If Poch tells Levy he needs defenders he’s not going to go out and sign him attacking midfielders is he?

posted on 3/7/20

Poch isn’t completely blameless, but it’s Levy who leaded us into this mess 100%. Failing to get targets, failing to move dead weight on, relying way too much on Poch to drag us through.

posted on 3/7/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 hours, 57 minutes ago
Complete clear out needed of the underachieving players.
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It`s up to the manager to get the best out of under achieving players, Poch managed it for several years. So far, Mourinho hasn`t.

posted on 3/7/20

comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
He’s massively responsible.

Amanda, I’m not saying he has the final say on all the transfers. But he has a say on what positions you need to address. If Poch tells Levy he needs defenders he’s not going to go out and sign him attacking midfielders is he?
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No, but I don't think Pochettino went out and asked for more attacking mids either. Everything points to him asking for players in positions XYZ, being offered inferior players in those positions, and rightly turning them down. It's the same as happened with previous managers under Levy.

Pochettino isn't blameless - a number of his selections and tactics and (especially) instances of media handling became increasingly bizarre towards the end when his motivation for the project had gone. But I don't think it's fair to blame him for poor transfer dealings. I simply don't think he had the clout in transfers that managers do at other clubs with more lenient chairmen.

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