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Method To The Madness

By madness I mean signing Luiz another year. Never thought we should have got him in the first place let alone kept him again. However this morning I've learned that Edu and Arteta are not totally insane after all. They may have a gambling problem, but they're not loopy. We have him here so Edu has another Brazilian, this one a potential teammate along for the ride, to get in Thiago Silva's ear to join us for a season 20/21.

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/latest-arsenal-transfer-news-rumours-18535839

No idea how tight DL and TS are aside from being fellow internationals but if they are very close then TS joining could be a reality. If so and it gets done, not so mad about keeping DL. If it means Holding and Chambers get to spend a year under the wing of undoubtedly one of the world's best. Could end up a damned masterstroke if he likes London life and has done his coaching badges.

No idea how true, if at all this is. Vaguely remember hearing on MOTD we were offering someone who wasn't Auba 250k a week but can't remember if TS was the player mentioned. If it is what are the thoughts on the prospect here?

posted on 5/7/20

Get Willian at all cost if he is a free agent.

posted on 6/7/20

comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 15 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Naa. Midfield is where we have issues.
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No MF is where we HAD the biggest issue. It's not there now, hence the improvement in results and league position after just a few months of coaching from Arteta. He never actually had to do that much after dropping the deadweight. Arteta will get plenty more out of them creatively soon enough and easily enough, it's literally HIS thing as a player. CB is a different story. We CANNOT afford to go into next season will DL as the leading influence in what Saliba, Holding and Chambers are learning. Nor do we need their progress hampered by his bloody random calamities stuffing up games they've done well in.

We need BETTER. But we also want oldish. Saliba, Holding and Chambers ALL need to play plenty. Now if we can get a top WC winning CB, who can still cut it, only wants a year and has already played in the PL, for 13 mil. By all means go get him. But if not Silva is IDEAL for the role we need played here. It's 13 million to have three players who will play for the next seven to ten years, taught by one of the very best teachers they could get. DL is an Achilles Heel going forward, GOT to sort that as a priority and for once start the building on a solid foundation not a massively flawed one.

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 6/7/20

We have plenty of okish CB options, don't need another. Invest everything in the midfield.

We're at a stage where we need top class options to really elevate the first team. If we can't do that at CB, then don't bother.

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 6/7/20

We are crying for a proper number 10. Most, if not all our attack is coming from the flank. We need to bring diversity to it.
By the look of it, Arteta is doing well with the defence. Not great yet but not as bad as under Wenger or Emery.
However, we are not scoring or creating enough.

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 6/7/20

Not a number ten per se, but a midfielder with an engine who can create and score would be ideal

posted on 6/7/20

comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 15 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Naa. Midfield is where we have issues.
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No MF is where we HAD the biggest issue. It's not there now, hence the improvement in results and league position after just a few months of coaching from Arteta. He never actually had to do that much after dropping the deadweight. Arteta will get plenty more out of them creatively soon enough and easily enough, it's literally HIS thing as a player. CB is a different story. We CANNOT afford to go into next season will DL as the leading influence in what Saliba, Holding and Chambers are learning. Nor do we need their progress hampered by his bloody random calamities stuffing up games they've done well in.

We need BETTER. But we also want oldish. Saliba, Holding and Chambers ALL need to play plenty. Now if we can get a top WC winning CB, who can still cut it, only wants a year and has already played in the PL, for 13 mil. By all means go get him. But if not Silva is IDEAL for the role we need played here. It's 13 million to have three players who will play for the next seven to ten years, taught by one of the very best teachers they could get. DL is an Achilles Heel going forward, GOT to sort that as a priority and for once start the building on a solid foundation not a massively flawed one.
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Almost everything you say about the defence can be applied to the MF. We need much better than we have if we ever want to start running games again. And no matter how much of a decent midfielder Arteta was, and whatever potential he has as a coach, he ain't turning Xhaka and Willock into Xavi and Iniesta.

Midfield is the weakest area of our squad, before you even get to the apparent uncertainties over the futures of Geundouzi and maybe Torreira, and the fact that one of the better players is only on loan.

posted on 6/7/20

We head into next season with the current CB lineup and you can forget progress. All the Mfs we have barr Xhaka and Ozil are youngsters who will improve for sure. In contrast HALF of our CBs are total liabilities who can and REGULARY DO, blow an entire games effort in one idiot moment at the back. And THEY'RE the supposedly the experienced ones, leading and teaching our future players. Also, they definitively WILL NOT get any better, only worse and more unreliable than they are already.

We needed CBs last season and bought Pepe remember. Part of the reason this season has gone so poorly, we not only kept the two calamity CBs we had but we added a bloody third. Pointless to repeat the exact same mistake again now by going once again and buying MFs whilst leaving calamity CBs in the squad, starting games week in and out. You guys are asking/expecting way too much of an incoming, new to the PL Saliba. To arrive and be the stabilising influence in this defence. I just hope you all remember this when you're ripping him to shreds. Slating him for not being good enough to carry all these calamities alongside him and still make our defence top notch. I know you won't though.

I wonder if the poor kid he knows he's about to spend the next year of his life getting slated by a bunch of fans who want to blame him for the incompetence of his seniors. After they all called for him to get lumbered with them only in the first place.

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 6/7/20

We've needed midfielders for years. If we don't sign at least one powerful, athletic midfielder we can forget about any progress.

posted on 6/7/20

So to justify 'the madness' we should repeat the exact same mistake?

Next CB we buy has to be a starter for the next 3+ seasons. No more stop gaps or promises please.

posted on 7/7/20

comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 18 hours, 31 minutes ago
So to justify 'the madness' we should repeat the exact same mistake?

Next CB we buy has to be a starter for the next 3+ seasons. No more stop gaps or promises please.
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Not quite so prepared to hold back and write off Holding and Chambers, to accommodate that, as you. We only need a starter for 3 years, if they're definitively being written off as starting prospects. Because Saliba, I assume, is already going to be starting for the next 3 years. Can he TEACH, whilst still being able to cut it playing. Is the most pressing issue, not can he start for 3 years when we already have 3 CBs coming of age now, near ready to do that.

They're all pretty much ready to simply be led by good example and the rest takes care of itself. Calamity Dave, is not a GOOD example. Since he has been a defensive weakness in damn near every team he's played in. He's one of the first breed of defenders, picked more for the attacking attributes, than their defending ones. The fact a man who played with him doesn't think he's a good influence to keep around HIS club, when he takes over managing it. Is all you need have seen, to know it's a bad idea.

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