Gendouzi

ALL of you "Well he's frozen Ozil out since the restart," people...

HAS HE NOW? We don't even know if this lack of Ozil's presence is even down to Arteta. Since his blind faith in Ozil UP UNTIL LOCKDOWN, the player himself's track record and the football rumour mill. All strongly suggest that Ozil is not currently in the side be that's what HE CHOSE! Not because Arteta dropped him.

Jeez, we can't get the bloke to play with heart and fight, in ideal feckin conditions. What on earth makes you think that he'd go anywhere near pandemic games. The man who just sits in the car watching whilst a couple of thugs outside the car threaten to stab his mate. If he won't risk getting hurt to potentially save his friend's life. He's damned sure not going to go out and risk getting ill to play feckin football for his team, is he?!

Also please take note.

Ceballos dropped....

Arteta piublicly states flaws why player is not in team.

AMN dropped...

Arteta piublicly states flaws why player is not in team.

Guendouzi dropped...

Arteta piublicly states flaws why player is not in team.

No Ozil after lockdown...

STILL WAITING for the public statement that he's been dropped because of his flaws. Only statement re Ozil I've seen from Arteta, is the PRAISE he gave him for his efforts in training, during those first few weeks. WHY has Arteta not come out publicly, stating that he has dropped him due to his repeated weak performances, if that is what has happened? Seems odd that he'd stay silent over dropping Ozil. After just having publicly called out every other player he dropped, over their absences from the team and flaws that led to them. That's the biggest indicator that this was not actually Arteta's choice, rather something he has had to accept whether he liked it or not. If he'd done it, he'd have said so and told us why. Just like he did with everyone else.

Arteta had to play Ozil at the start, he's the highest paid player and knows he won't be leaving so Arteta had to try and get something out of him or at least let him play himself out of the team. As Emery found out there's no decent solution, if you play Ozil then he flops and if you don't play him then that becomes a huge story in itself and the Ozil fanboys start turning on the manager. It's a distraction that we're gonna have to put up with for another season.

Feck his fanboys! A player forcing his way into the team with Twitter when he has no right to be there based on his performances. Is a bit more than a distraction 8Bit. It's a bloody tumour that will continue to sicken the team until it is cut out. The very attitude you've posted there, is the capitulating, origami swan one used at the start of the season when Arsenal fans folded, on mass. Bowing/Backing down to Ozil fanboys and turning on Emery. After it was OZIL whom had just blown ya whole season. Chatting crap about him being our best chance of creating goals. Like you all got bloody amnesia and forgot the previous 5 years.

Did it ever occur to you that, THAT little episode might have gone a long way to Arteta not feeling HE'D get the backing of the fans vs the fanboys, if he dared to shut out Ozil? Why would he risk taking on the fanboys if he knows the Arsenal fanbase is going to run scared and hang him out to dry, as soon as Twitter starts balling. Try just outright disagreeing with Ozil's presence at all, instead of trying to justify it. Since EVERY Arsenal fan who watches games has seen time and again, he has no business in this team because he doesn't want to play competitively any more.

Believe me, he tries to put Ozil back into this team and all hell's going to break loose among the players who've all been doing well without him. Nobody wanted him back at the start of this season and they had him forced on them. Decimating team morale for the season, in the process. They'll go ballistic if it's done again. NONE of them will want to return to "Ozil in the team" form. And it'll be a lot more than one upstart youngster kicking off about it too.

Also please take note.

Ceballos dropped....

Arteta piublicly states flaws why player is not in team.

[THIS 'STATEMENT' DID NOT HAPPEN]

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AMN dropped...

Arteta piublicly states flaws why player is not in team.

[THIS 'STATEMENT' DID NOT HAPPEN]

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Guendouzi dropped...

Arteta piublicly states flaws why player is not in team.

[THIS 'STATEMENT' DID NOT HAPPEN]

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'No Ozil after lockdown...

STILL WAITING for the public statement that he's been dropped because of his flaws. Only statement re Ozil I've seen from Arteta, is the PRAISE he gave him for his efforts in training...'

[THIS 'STATEMENT' ALSO DID NOT HAPPEN]

What did happen is this... Mikel Arteta at the beginning of the month: 'Guendouzi and Ozil? The situation hasn't changed. It's the same as it was last week.'

Doesn't take to much reading between the lines to see what's going on there, does it.

If you're still struggling though, here are Alan Smith's thoughts: 'Those not on board with the project, such as Mesut Ozil and Matteo Guendouzi, get quickly ousted from the core group.'

Rotten apples, extracted by the manager in order to save the basket (or in this case, boat).

Try to stop allowing figments of your quite vivid imagination to form as fact in your mind. Your hatred of Ozil is beyond ridiculous now, and is not only unhealthy, but comes across as mere petulance.

Perhaps why you relate to Guendouzi so well.

'We don't even know if this lack of Ozil's presence is even down to Arteta.'



Do you even think about what you're writing, before you press send?

I'm not justifying him WB2, the point I was making is that he's a toxic influence whether he plays or not. I don't get the logic blaming Arteta for anything Ozil related and tbf he's been quick to suss him out and drop him. There's just no point getting worked up over it anymore, only 1 more year to go

I mention him so often in articles about other players because as sick as you are of me mentioning him. I am of watching Arsenal fans berate and slate our committed players, who couldn't play to their best because they have had to carry him. I told everyone when Wenger was run out, this mess was largely down to repeated faith in Ozil. Yes we had other issues but he was the difference maker that'd tipped the scales which killed the football. Also said that the longer we persisted with him, the worse it would get. Forward two seasons and there have been only 2 sustained runs of any sort of form since. BOTH when Ozil has been dropped for a prolonged period. And both incidentally, riddled with all the other team issues, you wish to blame instead of him.

So I'll make you a deal, I'll shut up about Ozil, when you lot stop slating the players his presence diminished. When I say he's to blame for a such and such not doing as well as they could have. Stop denying it because for the last 3 years, that is probably correct. Because every player had to work that bit harder and be overtaxed (and diminished in their own role) because Ozil couldn't be assed. Week on week for years. We have a whole list of players whom regressed with him in the team. Yet seem to start progressing again the minute he's gone. That's not a bloody coincidence Lex. So stop pretending it is and moaning when I blame him for being the giant hole in the middle of our team, he HAS been. Do you seriously need to see him put back into the team and the team once again implode before you will admit that his presence is the cause?

Ya know for someone whom can read supposedly read between the lines so well. You seem to have had an awful problem reading the simple fact that having one man who can't be assed to play, in the middle of a team. Is highly likely to be damaging to said team's chances of winning. And if continued for any length of time, is also highly likely to damage the long form of the remaining players whom have to make up for him. That's plain common sense, when talking about ANYTHING requiring a TEAM effort.

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 58 minutes ago
I'm not justifying him WB2, the point I was making is that he's a toxic influence whether he plays or not. I don't get the logic blaming Arteta for anything Ozil related and tbf he's been quick to suss him out and drop him. There's just no point getting worked up over it anymore, only 1 more year to go
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I just made the point that he gave Ozil ages and went blazing at Guen straight away. Just to try and get people to put themselves in the talented kid's shoes and admit they'd not like that crap either because it's not really treating the players fairly and equally is it. It's everyone here diving on the fact I mentioned Ozil.

All people had to say is "Yeah that musta sucked from Guen's point of view." and move on to talking about him. But no people argue about Ozil being mentioned whilst pretending that the problems he caused don't exist. Even when it's proved in the team's results for years. Nothing wrong with me stating the fact he's to blame where he is. So people need to stop jumping on it when I do. Because he is a factor in the poor form of every player over this and last season in particular. As we're now seeing...AGAIN

Ozil hasn't done anything wrong from a discipline point of view though, if Guen challenged Arteta and has attitude problems then he needs to get dealt with. Unless Ozil starts breaking rules we can't punish him for playing sh*t and being a . I get what you mean about players being resentful of Ozil but I honestly don't think it matters if he plays or not, if he doesn't players are still gonna be pis sed that he's getting 350k a week to sit in the stands.

Better 350k to stay at home, than 350k to feck up team chances on the pitch, I say. And I have not a shred of doubt every player currently going great guns with him gone, would comprehensively agree. Poor sods shouldn't have had to swallow his presence all season, after the way he let everyone down last year. How we've not heard/read about a bust up involving one of them and him since, I don't know. Because I know if I'd been a part of that team, I'd have cracked him one for it, for sure. But then as a teammate, I'd have openly called him out about his crap performances, publicly years ago. Maybe even a 5 match ban for me, for knockin' him clean out, in a game. Because I finally lost it with him after he let one too attackers waltz by.

And to be fair, that's not too far from what a Viera or Keane would do with him. Some hands on encouragement. Man I miss them boys