Eddie Howe

comment by merrysupersteve (U1132)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Bournemouth scored more goals than anybody else in the bottom half last season. They scored the second most goals of any team in the bottom half the season before. It's all well and good to dismissively claim that anybody who thinks that they played good football hasn't watched them play enough. I'd argue that anybody who claims they didn't play open, attacking football didn't watch them play often enough, and the stats certainly back that up 👍
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Scored more and went down.

Work it out.

comment by RJC (U17308)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (U1132)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Bournemouth scored more goals than anybody else in the bottom half last season. They scored the second most goals of any team in the bottom half the season before. It's all well and good to dismissively claim that anybody who thinks that they played good football hasn't watched them play enough. I'd argue that anybody who claims they didn't play open, attacking football didn't watch them play often enough, and the stats certainly back that up 👍
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Scored more and went down.

Work it out.
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Can you read? They scored more in previous seasons and didn't go down. They were garbage, not entertaining and deserved to go down this season. I specifically referenced the previous seasons by date. Not hard to understand. You work it out

If you got confused as to what I meant as last season, I meant 18-19. They clearly didn't score the most goals of teams in the bottom half this season (19-20), so if you got confused on the years, you probably should have mentioned that, rather than asking me to work it out. 👍

Howe apparently had a very traditional set up at Bournemouth where he had a lot of control over signings and outgoings. From a coaching perspective I am on the side that he got them playing good football at times over the years.

But as said in my post their downfall has been the chit signings they’ve made for big money. They have in a way got lucky (or good scouting/coaching?) that literally all their players that have ended up being a good standard of PL player have been youth/cheap signings (King, Wilson, Fraser, Brooks, maybe Cook). Ake again the only anomaly to this.

Literally from their first season in PL, their culture of making chit signings started. 15/16 transfers: Afobe, Tomlin, Mings, Gradel (the only one I think was a good signing at the time), Grabban and Glenn Murray. They started how they went on, making terrible signings. Don’t think any of these literally made any impact at all or lasted more than 3 years.

Bournemouth's top 10 most expensive signings:
1. Lerma
2. Ake
3. Solanke
4. Danjuma
5. Ibe
6. Billing
7. Rico
8. Kelly
9. Mepham
10. Afobe

I know some of these are in their first season and are young/have had injuries. But, fact is, the only one who I could say for certain has had a net positive impact has been Ake. The rest have just not had the quality you would expect from big money signings to take the club forward.

The other place they went wrong imo, and this is again could be due to Howe maybe having too much control. Is too much loyalty has been shown to their old guard. Christ they still have, or only recently used to have players like Arter, Daniels, Surman, Cook, Francis, Stanislas, Gosling and Smith. Some of them have been ok at PL level but come on, 5-6 years after being promoted you wouldn’t expect them to still be regular players if you truly want to be an established PL team. Leicester who have been in the PL a similar time have, of course, a completely changed team from their promotion time. Wolves were very aggressive in changing their Championship side up and are already arguably an established PL side now.

Sorry for another essay lol, I do find the case study of Howe and Bournemouth interesting

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 8 hours, 29 minutes ago
Poch spurs side played attacking football, they weren’t exciting though.
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Same with the current version of Liverpool tbf.

Very efficient but rarely a great watch.

comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
I think Howe would be good at a club where he has absolute no fackin say in transfers, ie just be a coach, mainly. As I understand he had quite a lot of say at basically everything at Bournemouth. And I believe their downfall has been the amount of rubbish they have bought, literally all of their top 10 signings since coming to the PL have been average at best other than Ake.
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The English Benitez then?

Underrated if anything. His Bournemouth record tells you that. I think the next five years will show what a good job he did there.
Surprised some think he is massively overrated.

Howe did a great job. He was quite unlucky to be relegated this season. For example Bournemouth in domination should have finished 15th on expected points and Watford should have finished 14th miles clear of teams in bottom three. Inefficiency in football can get you relegated even if teams play much worse.

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comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 10 minutes ago
Howe did a great job. He was quite unlucky to be relegated this season. For example Bournemouth in domination should have finished 15th on expected points and Watford should have finished 14th miles clear of teams in bottom three. Inefficiency in football can get you relegated even if teams play much worse.
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That must be a consolation for Bournemouth to know their expected points were higher than their actual points.