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Ed Woodward

Ed Woodward is a money man who knows nothing about football. His negotiating skills are lamentable : he has trouble not only buying the players he wants, but also selling the players he doesn't want. But I am fully behind him in refusing the buyback clause demanded by Madrid for Reguilon. Jose will get the player because he doesn't care about the future of Spurs. He knows that if Real wants Reguilon back in a year or two, he won't be there.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

Whar do you mean by in for them?

comment by Ruiney (U1005)

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

Well the BBC state that we spoke to Real Madrid about Reguilon but wouldn’t agree to the buy back clause.

They also state that Sancho is our top summer target and that we’ve been in talks with Dortmund.

Or is none of this true??

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Reddevilsdouble II (U22313)
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comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Though Ed probably knows more than any poster on here.
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Hand on heart, I suspect that is simply not true. The guy was an investment banker until 7 years ago, there are people on here who have been following football closely their entire lives, so in terms purely of football knowledge I doubt that.

The shorter version of my answer is simply: Phil Jones' new 5 year contract.

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If you genuinely mean that then I give up.
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Can't investment bankers be football fans. We have all kinds of jobs on here, but are all fans.
Plus he has input from scouts, Ole and SAF and Sir Bob for all I know.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson... (U12026)
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comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 10 minutes ago
Dembele, Reus are both brillant players who would walk into our side but both have poor injury records which have hindered their careers. The comparison to Sancho is irrelevant because so far he hasn't had similar injury problems.

The club have always stated they have money aside for any big special transfers that come our way.

The reason others aren't interested is because Chelsea have spent over £200m (during Covid), Liverpool are skint and he isn't a priority, City already let him go and again he isn't a priority, Barca are skint and Real want Mbappe.

Of course they want to sell but only for the price they've always stated. Like Leicester, Palace and Sporting did for their players before them which they all recieved in the end.
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But Reus and Dembele and Kagawa and myhki is the reason you some sort of performance clause in the contract. The track record of players leaving them and producing close to their transfer fee is low. The numbers are obvious. I bet you can get Dembele and Reus now for less than a 100 million.

The club can afford him. But the benefit of doing good business now will affect our success for years to come especially dealing with players from foreign clubs that see us as cash cows.

All the reasons you have stated back my point. We have no competition for him. Nobody is breaking their necks to get him. Just us. Chelsea knew he was available before spending so much and still didn't think him a generational talent to spunk all that money on.

Sporting did not get their price. Leicester and Crystal Palace where different. They are U.K. clubs with players we can reasonably extrapolate their performances. And we paid Market price for them.
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Yeah, Red Tomato is right. Many BD players have left and not hit the heights they have at BD. You can probably count on one hand how many have. 108m pounds for him is a high risk in the current market. Generational talent thing is really an opinion. He may be.

What Ed and Matt should be doing now is getting other targets over the line as this has stalled.

From what I read, it's Dortmund wanting most, of not all, the fee up front. Not in add ons or installments. And looking at many of the big sales from their team over the years, it does seem like a big risk.

On top of that, other than the top 4/5 teams,tthe others are quite weak. Having watched a few games when before and after lockdown,the ddefending is quite bad. Many teams remind me of how Norwich were last season.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 26 minutes ago
Well the BBC state that we spoke to Real Madrid about Reguilon but wouldn’t agree to the buy back clause.

They also state that Sancho is our top summer target and that we’ve been in talks with Dortmund.

Or is none of this true??
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It's only true when it fits RDD's point and untrue when it doesn't.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

Currently

What relevance has Reus got to do with players who have struggled after Dortmund?

The reason Kagawa and Mhki failed at United has nothing to do with them coming from Dortmund, that’s such a idiotic nonsensical view. Kagawa failed because we bought RVP and his role was in question from that point on. Mhki failed because he clashed with Jose like many players have. Will Haaland and Bellingham also fail at any club they join after Dortmund and why has Lewandowski done so well at Bayern? It’s flawed logic that is down to the individual than the club they have come from.

Being English I’d imagine Sancho has a far better idea of what PL football is like even if he didn’t play in it for City.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy Manticore (U2958)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 0 seconds ago
At least Sancho is in the bag. Pretty much:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-manchester-united-buy-jadon-sancho
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Did Matth set that up?

"Matthew Kelley is organising this fundraiser."
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‘Tonight, Matthew, I’ll be the Village People.’

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b8awnuOPTCQ

comment by Ruiney (U1005)

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy Manticore (U2958)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 0 seconds ago
At least Sancho is in the bag. Pretty much:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-manchester-united-buy-jadon-sancho
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Did Matth set that up?

"Matthew Kelley is organising this fundraiser."
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‘Tonight, Matthew, I’ll be the Village People.’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8awnuOPTCQ
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ffs 😂

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy Manticore (U2958)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 0 seconds ago
At least Sancho is in the bag. Pretty much:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-manchester-united-buy-jadon-sancho
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Did Matth set that up?

"Matthew Kelley is organising this fundraiser."
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‘Tonight, Matthew, I’ll be the Village People.’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8awnuOPTCQ
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ffs 😂
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My worry is he has said he must sign Sancho for Man United to help his mental health.

Mental health is no joke but the idea of Man U winning the league, if they make the signing, is.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 41 minutes ago
Currently

What relevance has Reus got to do with players who have struggled after Dortmund?

The reason Kagawa and Mhki failed at United has nothing to do with them coming from Dortmund, that’s such a idiotic nonsensical view. Kagawa failed because we bought RVP and his role was in question from that point on. Mhki failed because he clashed with Jose like many players have. Will Haaland and Bellingham also fail at any club they join after Dortmund and why has Lewandowski done so well at Bayern? It’s flawed logic that is down to the individual than the club they have come from.

Being English I’d imagine Sancho has a far better idea of what PL football is like even if he didn’t play in it for City.
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He has no relevance. He hasn't left Dortmund.

Mhiki failed at Arsenal as well. Kagawa wasn't the same when he returned to BD. But it's not just them. Sometimes the league, the club(teammatesaand coaches), and the system suits the players. And when they join a different side they just don't reach the same heights. Others do excel such as Lewa, Aubameyang, Hummels (any others you want to add to the list?). Others are average and the rest don't do as well as they did.

Haaland and Bellingham have been there for a short time - both also rejected coming here (or fees not agreed due to agents or clubs and whatnot). They may go on to be world beaters or they could flop (plenty of examples players flopping as well as being hits). When Barca spent 130-140m on Dembele, they didn't think he'd flop. Sancho would be a record fee for United. People still argue about Pogba not living up to the fee paid for him. Sancho will face that pressure and more. On top of that, we have Covid-19 about and the club losing money due to the issues surrounding Covid-19.

We also need to strengthen other areas. If we cannot agree a fee that is manageable then we should move onto the other players we want to sign in other positions.

Based on what I read, BD want that fee paid in full. No add ons, not broken down and paid in installments, etc.

The question should be how much stronger the side would be with Sancho vs strengthening the other positions we need to improve on. Do you think his signing at the fee he will command, will negate the need to strengthen other parts of the team? We have to consider how much singing him vs the others would bring us closer to winning the title, etc. It might be a case of let's sort out the other issues and wait another year to sign him (he'll have 2 years left and may not renew to add a year).

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