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Standing Still?

I was speaking with a good friend of mine last night who supports LFC and we were discussing your transfer activity this window. For me after the 30 year wait, Liverpool had a chance (and still do) to make a real statement of intent to retain their title and perhaps even win a few more in the next 3 years with the spine you have.

My friend, on the other hand, is adamant the current team is good enough to retain the league and challenge for it regularly in the next few years with the way you are now. We both agreed that with the quality you have, there probably aren't too many players you can bring in (remember this happened at Spurs with Kane) who can improve your starting XI.

Are any LFC fans worried? I remember the year I turned 16, United won back the league title after 4 years of Arsenal and Chelsea dominance but within weeks Fergie went out and brought in Nani, Anderson, Tevez and Hargreaves. I am fairly sure he actually signed Nani and Anderson only days after the season finished. The year after they won the EPL and UCL before winning a third title on the bounce in 2009.

My point is that it seems as though Liverpool have a chance to almost grab the league by the scruff of the neck and aren't taking it. Thiago is up for grabs and you aren't even moving for him. Why? He's a world class footballer who would probably get into any side in the world. Imagine him in that midfield instead of Keita, you'd be up a level already but you won't make the move.

Could this transfer window be seen as a huge mistake in maybe 3 or 4 years if you don't win the title again before then? A huge 'what could have been' moment? Especially if Thiago signs for United as is being reported.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 33 minutes ago
I doubt Grujic would even get registered tbh.
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probably not but I am just showing that there is a clear spot for him if we do keep him with us.

Same for karius which i highly doubt.

I do not see 17 foreign players! I wish someone would clear up how this would then mean wijnaludm has to go to bring in fabinho.

Is it non EU players???

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by __19*__ (U22043)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
there is no such thing as standing still.

you are improving or regressing. Simple as that

We look to be stoney broke and fans who can't get with the program will the the first to be bleating and moaning for years as to why didn't we sign players.

Peopel genuinely don't want to know about the losses clubs have faced here. They don't want to know cos they want to believe it'll all be great and then when its not they turn about and seek to point fingers.

3rd at best here. thats our lot this season. could be worse if luck goes against us
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I think the reduced time between games over this season will see us pick up more injuries, in key areas, for longer periods. Without further strengthening, I think this season will see us winning no silverware and is struggling to make top 4.
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you never know with cups. anything can happen.

There fixture list is indeed crazy and one aspect of my prediction.

however my main point is we are under financial pressure and won't be buying so its pointless to whine and moan after the fact.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by פlǝuƃɥᴉs (U19365)
posted 13 minutes ago
And still everyone is missing one vital fact concerning transfers.

Liverpool currently have their full quota of non-home-grown players and need to sell one before another can be brought in.

That is the reason for sell to buy, not lack of finances.

FSG cannot magic space for another overseas player out of thin air. Rules have to be followed whether we like it or not.

If Gini goes to Barça then Thiago comes in which would be a major positive and upgrade.
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Maybe they should paid the little extra for Jamal Lewis then than buy a Greek left back?
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Maybe if Norwich hadn't tried to be greedy asking £20m for Lewis then we might have got him. They were taking the pi555 as they eventually sold Lewis to Newcastle for £15m.

I think we got a better deal with Kostas anyway. Lewis is overhyped because he's English. We probably have similar players to Lewis coming through the youth system so why buy another one?

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

City have spent hundreds of millions more than Liverpool and can't lay a glove on them at the moment. It's not as simple as spending or failing to spend.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 5 hours, 53 minutes ago

Only those that can remember call me Leiva
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Leiva it is then. Didn't intend to come across rude, sorry if I did.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Cosmic Refugee (U1282)
posted 40 minutes ago
City have spent hundreds of millions more than Liverpool and can't lay a glove on them at the moment. It's not as simple as spending or failing to spend.
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that was last season.

we've no idea what they will do this season so assuming they won't get near us on the basis of last year is as dangerous as assuming they will hit 100 points as they dis before.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Cosmic Refugee (U1282)
posted 40 minutes ago
City have spent hundreds of millions more than Liverpool and can't lay a glove on them at the moment. It's not as simple as spending or failing to spend.
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that was last season.

we've no idea what they will do this season so assuming they won't get near us on the basis of last year is as dangerous as assuming they will hit 100 points as they dis before.


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I didn't say anything about this season though so I don't know why this is relevant tbh.

I spoke about the current moment, not the future. As it stands now, City and United have outspent Liverpool by about a quarter of a billion between the two of them. United have been spending hundreds of millions to appear in the Ropey league every season.

Spending makes a difference, but it's not as simple as that and no one seems to understand this more than Liverpool.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Cosmic Refugee (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Cosmic Refugee (U1282)
posted 40 minutes ago
City have spent hundreds of millions more than Liverpool and can't lay a glove on them at the moment. It's not as simple as spending or failing to spend.
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that was last season.

we've no idea what they will do this season so assuming they won't get near us on the basis of last year is as dangerous as assuming they will hit 100 points as they dis before.


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I didn't say anything about this season though so I don't know why this is relevant tbh.

I spoke about the current moment, not the future. As it stands now, City and United have outspent Liverpool by about a quarter of a billion between the two of them. United have been spending hundreds of millions to appear in the Ropey league every season.

Spending makes a difference, but it's not as simple as that and no one seems to understand this more than Liverpool.
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When United were on top, in the 90sLiverpool were spending fortunes and getting nowhere as we kept buying a load of players and hoping it worked. Meanwhile United bought one big player everytime they moved one on and stayed on top. In the end Liverpool ended up outspending them with less success. The same is happening now, vice versa, only we have to wait and see if we can be as successful as they were. They didn't have City and Chelsea back then.

posted 2 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Cosmic Refugee (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Cosmic Refugee (U1282)
posted 40 minutes ago
City have spent hundreds of millions more than Liverpool and can't lay a glove on them at the moment. It's not as simple as spending or failing to spend.
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that was last season.

we've no idea what they will do this season so assuming they won't get near us on the basis of last year is as dangerous as assuming they will hit 100 points as they dis before.


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I didn't say anything about this season though so I don't know why this is relevant tbh.

I spoke about the current moment, not the future. As it stands now, City and United have outspent Liverpool by about a quarter of a billion between the two of them. United have been spending hundreds of millions to appear in the Ropey league every season.

Spending makes a difference, but it's not as simple as that and no one seems to understand this more than Liverpool.
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When United were on top, in the 90sLiverpool were spending fortunes and getting nowhere as we kept buying a load of players and hoping it worked. Meanwhile United bought one big player everytime they moved one on and stayed on top. In the end Liverpool ended up outspending them with less success. The same is happening now, vice versa, only we have to wait and see if we can be as successful as they were. They didn't have City and Chelsea back then.
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Zactly. It's not just a matter of buying players when other teams can outspend you easily and by quite some distance. You have to plan tour spending catefully in that situation and sometimes even mark time on the spot so that when you march you make bigger strides than the competition. It will be hard to dominate like United because of this. Its more reasonable to expect to knick a title every two or three years than to expect absolute dominance like United IMO.

posted 2 weeks ago

comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 day ago
comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 33 minutes ago
I doubt Grujic would even get registered tbh.
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probably not but I am just showing that there is a clear spot for him if we do keep him with us.

Same for karius which i highly doubt.

I do not see 17 foreign players! I wish someone would clear up how this would then mean wijnaludm has to go to bring in fabinho.

Is it non EU players???
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No it's non-home-grown players.

A “Home-Grown Player” means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

So, we can see here why Andy Robertson for example is not on the HGP list; before he turned 20 he played in Scotland, so only had one year with Hull before turning 21.

It's even more complicated for CL as UEFA defines locally-trained or ‘homegrown’ players as those who, regardless of their nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the same national association for at least three years between the age of 15 and 21. Up to half of the locally-trained players must be from the club itself, with the others being either from the club itself or from other clubs in the same association.

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/09/liverpools-2020-21-homegrown-players-why-sales-are-needed-before-signings

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