Of course it’s a con and a way to make the rich richer - I do get that and that’s the least ‘appetising’ part of this whole thing. I’ve said many times on this site that I’m a football fan before I’m a United fan and I’d hope everyone on here is the same (obviously take out United and include your own side 😂)
The reason I think it’s important that it go through is that without it dozens of football clubs may go bankrupt. I know that’s the con here - that a dodgy looking deal is being sold as a saviour of these clubs so it gathers sympathy while a sleight of hand trick is happening away from our glance - but if it is the only way to save many many football league clubs from going out of business this summer, is there any other way to approach this?
Perhaps there are some people who don’t really care about lower league sides and fair enough, that’s your prerogative but is anyone else at that point where even though this deal is a ruse to make some rich people richer, it’s also perhaps the only way to fix a lot of the problems covid has caused where many historic clubs in the EFL may potentially die?
In defence of the Big Picture
posted on 14/10/20
Show me some evidence Robb
posted on 14/10/20
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 8 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 4 hours, 54 minutes ago
if it is the only way to save many many football league clubs from going out of business..
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That's the con. Cmon Rob, you know better than that.
The Premier League could hand over that money right now, from cash they have sitting in the bank. The clubs could have a whip round and pay 250m no trouble. All this nonsense about changing the league and removing cup competitions and changing voting rights.. just hand over the money you greedy caants.
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yeah because that is exactly how the world works
people handing over their money for nothing in return.
All that money sitting in the banks, maybe I should tell my bank manager to hand it over and stop being a greedy caant
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Yeah because that's an exactly equivalent situation. The lower league clubs aren't competition for the likes of Liverpool and United, they're a key part of the supply chain. It's no good for anyone in the football if lots of clubs start going under. You just weaken the pool of talent available. The 250m could be a loan or as equity. There was also talks of an investment company willing to put 300m into the EFL which has been kept quiet. It's all very suss
But let's say that doesn't occur to Liverpool and United's American owners, or they see that it doesn't apply to them. Fair enough. So why are they apparently being so generous with this payout? It's all about control, right? So to use your analogy you get to keep your business but the bank will have total control over the decisions about it's future. There's no discussions over terms, you take it or leave it. I think you'd look elsewhere.
posted on 14/10/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 8 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 4 hours, 54 minutes ago
if it is the only way to save many many football league clubs from going out of business..
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That's the con. Cmon Rob, you know better than that.
The Premier League could hand over that money right now, from cash they have sitting in the bank. The clubs could have a whip round and pay 250m no trouble. All this nonsense about changing the league and removing cup competitions and changing voting rights.. just hand over the money you greedy caants.
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yeah because that is exactly how the world works
people handing over their money for nothing in return.
All that money sitting in the banks, maybe I should tell my bank manager to hand it over and stop being a greedy caant
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Yeah because that's an exactly equivalent situation. The lower league clubs aren't competition for the likes of Liverpool and United, they're a key part of the supply chain. It's no good for anyone in the football if lots of clubs start going under. You just weaken the pool of talent available. The 250m could be a loan or as equity. There was also talks of an investment company willing to put 300m into the EFL which has been kept quiet. It's all very suss
But let's say that doesn't occur to Liverpool and United's American owners, or they see that it doesn't apply to them. Fair enough. So why are they apparently being so generous with this payout? It's all about control, right? So to use your analogy you get to keep your business but the bank will have total control over the decisions about it's future. There's no discussions over terms, you take it or leave it. I think you'd look elsewhere.
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control but also creating room in the schedule for additional lucrative pre-season games and future Europen Superleague.
posted on 14/10/20
This has been rejected now, as expected.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54545053
posted on 14/10/20
They tried though, right?
posted on 14/10/20
Premier League says clubs will not back 'Project Big Picture'
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No 5hit, sherlock.
posted on 14/10/20
Says a lot when it’s unanimous. Even the clubs that actually wanted this have done a U-turn.
posted on 14/10/20
Even the clubs that actually wanted this have done a U-turn.
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They must have finally read it.
posted on 14/10/20
Glad it’s been rejected.
posted on 14/10/20
Good news. My only defence of it was the money going to league 1 and 2 but they’re getting some money now in a new deal so everyone’s a winner.