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Managers

With various managers being wanted or linked to us currently, I have a question.

The discussions as I've seen them for wanting it not wanting a manger us based on a managers style. So for example Allegri being touted got the response of him being too defensive.

Now I know certain managers have tried to implement a certain style in most teams they have managed, so for us Mourinho was a get a strong CF something he had at Chelsea etc

But surely the sign of a good manager is to utilise what's at his disposal? So how many of the managers we see as defensive would actually want to play that style? Is it simply a needs must with what's available or simply too stuck in their ways?

Could an Allegri come and surprise us?

posted on 15/10/20

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
But it’s not a hindrance, Pep’s teams are nearly always the highest scoring in the league.

I think they should have done better in the CL for sure. The league last year I’m not so sure given the issues they had with the defence and losing Sane. The form they showed the previous two seasons wasn’t sustainable with the players they had available last year.
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Feels it to me, as in hinderance.

Have tbh and say I never really thought as much of Pep as some do.

To me he is a fella who has everything in place before he comes to a team rather than where we are or LFC were, where you need a manager who has to work within certain constraints and has to develop players.

We need someone who can take say rashford and make him all that, not buy a raheem and add bits and if itvfails buy another and another etc
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But it’s quite evidently not when his teams always score more goals than anyone else.

I think Pep’s brilliant at developing players that are already good, or very good, into unbelievable performers. It’s happened at every club he’s been at.

He’s taken jobs where things are in place yeah. But it’s a different style of management. It ultimately depends on what you value more, and what the club’s needs are.

Funnily enough Rashford’s a player I’d love to see play under Pep. I think he’d improve exponentially.

posted on 15/10/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
But it’s not a hindrance, Pep’s teams are nearly always the highest scoring in the league.

I think they should have done better in the CL for sure. The league last year I’m not so sure given the issues they had with the defence and losing Sane. The form they showed the previous two seasons wasn’t sustainable with the players they had available last year.
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Feels it to me, as in hinderance.

Have tbh and say I never really thought as much of Pep as some do.

To me he is a fella who has everything in place before he comes to a team rather than where we are or LFC were, where you need a manager who has to work within certain constraints and has to develop players.

We need someone who can take say rashford and make him all that, not buy a raheem and add bits and if itvfails buy another and another etc
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But it’s quite evidently not when his teams always score more goals than anyone else.

I think Pep’s brilliant at developing players that are already good, or very good, into unbelievable performers. It’s happened at every club he’s been at.

He’s taken jobs where things are in place yeah. But it’s a different style of management. It ultimately depends on what you value more, and what the club’s needs are.

Funnily enough Rashford’s a player I’d love to see play under Pep. I think he’d improve exponentially.
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Agree about Rashford. I think Fred would look better under him too strangely.

posted on 15/10/20

I think all of our players would. The levels between Pep and Ole are staggering.

posted on 15/10/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
I think all of our players would. The levels between Pep and Ole are staggering.
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Ole could one day be as good as Pep

comment by Kobra (U19849)

posted on 16/10/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 32 minutes ago
I think all of our players would. The levels between Pep and Ole are staggering.
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I think big Sam would have done a better job than Ole

posted on 16/10/20

Yeah probably, Big Sam’s underrated.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 16/10/20

PL teams have forgotten how to defend. Maybe a defensive coach would be a winning formula

posted on 16/10/20

I think all managers have a philosophy and the best managers improve/adapt players to suit that philosophy if they have the capability to do so. It is also not bad management to identify a weakness in the side and improve on that in the transfer market as well, a common misconception is managers that just "buy" the title.

Look at Ancelotti at Everton, how a top coach and manager has managed to develop Calvert-Lewin's game. We all knew Calvert-Lewin was a good striker, but the talk 12 months ago was can he deliver the goals, and Ancelotti and has backroom staff have managed to get that out of him. Whilst buying players in the necessary areas (midfield) that strengthens the team.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 16/10/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
I think all of our players would. The levels between Pep and Ole are staggering.
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Is this the same Ole that is one of only two managers to beat a team managed by Pep 3 times in the same season. Even though he had the weaker squad? Yes, staggering.

posted on 16/10/20

Yes the same one. Arteta’s got some decent results against Klopp recently, but the same applies. The levels between them are staggering, when you leave this cult you’re in you’ll realise it.

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