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Much better

We won’t face tripe like Newcastle every week but some promising signs that we need to build on or else ... well, I’ll give you a day off 😂

Rash looking good up top. More direct than Martial Imo
Good interplay between Bruno and Mata
DDG pulling off some important saves.
Wan Bissaka didn’t get a nosebleed that high up the pitch!
McT played very well (Fred was awful though)
Beeks looked great when he came on.
I wanted Maguire to have a rest but glad he played as that goal must have been a huge relief.

So yeah, finally a good performance this season. We need to push on but today, we drink, we eat and we party 🥳

posted 2 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 10 minutes ago
DDG's saves were immense especially that wondrous goal line single handed claw off the line from Wilson's header! That was superman back to his best.

I do think Hendo being at the club has put a rocket up DDGs backside. I just hope Hendo is not frozen out like Romero was. I personally would make Hendo my number 1 keeper.

But whatever my opinions DDG still has those saves in his locker, the kind that made him club player of the year for many consecutive seasons.
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For me that part of DDG game has never been in doubt. His on the line saves have always been fantastic

Where he suffers is taking control of his area as a whole.

If I can use pickford as an example, he will never be making the saves ddg does but he is quick off his line and that makes a difference. His taking out vvd, although a foul and imo a red card is the kind of thing you will never see from ddg.

posted 2 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 10 minutes ago
DDG's saves were immense especially that wondrous goal line single handed claw off the line from Wilson's header! That was superman back to his best.

I do think Hendo being at the club has put a rocket up DDGs backside. I just hope Hendo is not frozen out like Romero was. I personally would make Hendo my number 1 keeper.

But whatever my opinions DDG still has those saves in his locker, the kind that made him club player of the year for many consecutive seasons.
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For me that part of DDG game has never been in doubt. His on the line saves have always been fantastic

Where he suffers is taking control of his area as a whole.

If I can use pickford as an example, he will never be making the saves ddg does but he is quick off his line and that makes a difference. His taking out vvd, although a foul and imo a red card is the kind of thing you will never see from ddg.
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Yeah, as a shot stopper he is second to none but hate his obsession with the goal line, he rarely comes out. I prefer my keeper to dominate his area, bark orders and organise the backline.

Our defence is sheite but it would be less sheite if DDG was able to play rush keeper or act as a sweeper. We seldom play a high line one because of our slow defence and second because of DDG not leaving his line!

posted 2 days, 21 hours ago

When I think of a balanced keeper I think of Van Der Sar

posted 2 days, 21 hours ago

Had to make do with the radio. Delighted to hear that not only did Rashford play well but that he did so at CF.

I want to see more of Van de Beek. Seems like he’s an intelligent player. As said above, though, in this formation, the Fred-McTominay combo works as a base, so how do you get even two of Bruno, Donny and Pogba in the side? Now Mata has complicated the issue further. Would be a great problem to have if we were strong everywhere else.

I had a feeling we’d see a reaction today and it sounds like we did. Heard the players looked fitter as well so good so good all round.

posted 2 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 10 minutes ago
DDG's saves were immense especially that wondrous goal line single handed claw off the line from Wilson's header! That was superman back to his best.

I do think Hendo being at the club has put a rocket up DDGs backside. I just hope Hendo is not frozen out like Romero was. I personally would make Hendo my number 1 keeper.

But whatever my opinions DDG still has those saves in his locker, the kind that made him club player of the year for many consecutive seasons.
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For me that part of DDG game has never been in doubt. His on the line saves have always been fantastic

Where he suffers is taking control of his area as a whole.

If I can use pickford as an example, he will never be making the saves ddg does but he is quick off his line and that makes a difference. His taking out vvd, although a foul and imo a red card is the kind of thing you will never see from ddg.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, as a shot stopper he is second to none but hate his obsession with the goal line, he rarely comes out. I prefer my keeper to dominate his area, bark orders and organise the backline.

Our defence is sheite but it would be less sheite if DDG was able to play rush keeper or act as a sweeper. We seldom play a high line one because of our slow defence and second because of DDG not leaving his line!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

In defence of our defence I think they haven't been helped by a keeper who isn't vocal or controlling and a mf that can't keep the ball

I think our defenders, maybe but world-class, but are pretty decent in the right set up. They simply have too much to do how we play.

posted 2 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
Had to make do with the radio. Delighted to hear that not only did Rashford play well but that he did so at CF.

I want to see more of Van de Beek. Seems like he’s an intelligent player. As said above, though, in this formation, the Fred-McTominay combo works as a base, so how do you get even two of Bruno, Donny and Pogba in the side? Now Mata has complicated the issue further. Would be a great problem to have if we were strong everywhere else.

I had a feeling we’d see a reaction today and it sounds like we did. Heard the players looked fitter as well so good so good all round.
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Only way I see it working is to have a 3 man defence with 2 of matic/fred/mct in front

Then play Pogba vdb and Bruno in front. All these can interchange and play on the wing too if needed. Although currently we tend to go through the middle a lot

The 2 in front of the 3 defenders can go back to make the defence a 5 if needed or move up to make a 5 man MF

The main thing is the skill levels of pogba dvb and Bruno would see us playing a lot slicker and hopefully we would hold the ball for longer.

Having james as a winger isn't better than even having Pogba as a winger imo. Pogba may not have james pace but is a far better footballer and can cross a ball

posted 2 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 10 minutes ago
DDG's saves were immense especially that wondrous goal line single handed claw off the line from Wilson's header! That was superman back to his best.

I do think Hendo being at the club has put a rocket up DDGs backside. I just hope Hendo is not frozen out like Romero was. I personally would make Hendo my number 1 keeper.

But whatever my opinions DDG still has those saves in his locker, the kind that made him club player of the year for many consecutive seasons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

For me that part of DDG game has never been in doubt. His on the line saves have always been fantastic

Where he suffers is taking control of his area as a whole.

If I can use pickford as an example, he will never be making the saves ddg does but he is quick off his line and that makes a difference. His taking out vvd, although a foul and imo a red card is the kind of thing you will never see from ddg.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, as a shot stopper he is second to none but hate his obsession with the goal line, he rarely comes out. I prefer my keeper to dominate his area, bark orders and organise the backline.

Our defence is sheite but it would be less sheite if DDG was able to play rush keeper or act as a sweeper. We seldom play a high line one because of our slow defence and second because of DDG not leaving his line!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

In defence of our defence I think they haven't been helped by a keeper who isn't vocal or controlling and a mf that can't keep the ball

I think our defenders, maybe but world-class, but are pretty decent in the right set up. They simply have too much to do how we play.


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To a certain extent I agree but DDG cannot be blamed for unforced individual errors that the likes of Bailey, Lindelof (moreso than anyone) and Maguire have grown accustomed to making. We don't have players who enjoy defending, they make basic errors one associates with amateurs. So DDG can't be blamed for that but I get what you mean. DDGs lack of ownership of the area transmits nervous energy to the defence, quite possibly.

In the past we had a team of leaders who took responsibility, engaged in game management. It's this lack of leadership, organisational skills & poor communication that's leading to incohesion along the back line.

The other damning reason is the defence is simply not good enough individually or as a unit. DDG is apportioned a tiny part of the blame for the lack of cohesion.

If your foundation has cracks then it bodes badly for the other functional areas of the team too.

posted 2 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 10 minutes ago
DDG's saves were immense especially that wondrous goal line single handed claw off the line from Wilson's header! That was superman back to his best.

I do think Hendo being at the club has put a rocket up DDGs backside. I just hope Hendo is not frozen out like Romero was. I personally would make Hendo my number 1 keeper.

But whatever my opinions DDG still has those saves in his locker, the kind that made him club player of the year for many consecutive seasons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

For me that part of DDG game has never been in doubt. His on the line saves have always been fantastic

Where he suffers is taking control of his area as a whole.

If I can use pickford as an example, he will never be making the saves ddg does but he is quick off his line and that makes a difference. His taking out vvd, although a foul and imo a red card is the kind of thing you will never see from ddg.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, as a shot stopper he is second to none but hate his obsession with the goal line, he rarely comes out. I prefer my keeper to dominate his area, bark orders and organise the backline.

Our defence is sheite but it would be less sheite if DDG was able to play rush keeper or act as a sweeper. We seldom play a high line one because of our slow defence and second because of DDG not leaving his line!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

In defence of our defence I think they haven't been helped by a keeper who isn't vocal or controlling and a mf that can't keep the ball

I think our defenders, maybe but world-class, but are pretty decent in the right set up. They simply have too much to do how we play.


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To a certain extent I agree but DDG cannot be blamed for unforced individual errors that the likes of Bailey, Lindelof (moreso than anyone) and Maguire have grown accustomed to making. We don't have players who enjoy defending, they make basic errors one associates with amateurs. So DDG can't be blamed for that but I get what you mean. DDGs lack of ownership of the area transmits nervous energy to the defence, quite possibly.

In the past we had a team of leaders who took responsibility, engaged in game management. It's this lack of leadership, organisational skills & poor communication that's leading to incohesion along the back line.

The other damning reason is the defence is simply not good enough individually or as a unit. DDG is apportioned a tiny part of the blame for the lack of cohesion.

If your foundation has cracks then it bodes badly for the other functional areas of the team too.
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Yeah can't really argue with that.

And I could be way wrong but I do think being constantly under pressure and found out of position has something to do with what's in front.

I often wonder how we can have all 10 of our men in our half but we get walked through

posted 2 days, 20 hours ago

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Plump Pumped (U22314)
posted 10 minutes ago
DDG's saves were immense especially that wondrous goal line single handed claw off the line from Wilson's header! That was superman back to his best.

I do think Hendo being at the club has put a rocket up DDGs backside. I just hope Hendo is not frozen out like Romero was. I personally would make Hendo my number 1 keeper.

But whatever my opinions DDG still has those saves in his locker, the kind that made him club player of the year for many consecutive seasons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

For me that part of DDG game has never been in doubt. His on the line saves have always been fantastic

Where he suffers is taking control of his area as a whole.

If I can use pickford as an example, he will never be making the saves ddg does but he is quick off his line and that makes a difference. His taking out vvd, although a foul and imo a red card is the kind of thing you will never see from ddg.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, as a shot stopper he is second to none but hate his obsession with the goal line, he rarely comes out. I prefer my keeper to dominate his area, bark orders and organise the backline.

Our defence is sheite but it would be less sheite if DDG was able to play rush keeper or act as a sweeper. We seldom play a high line one because of our slow defence and second because of DDG not leaving his line!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

In defence of our defence I think they haven't been helped by a keeper who isn't vocal or controlling and a mf that can't keep the ball

I think our defenders, maybe but world-class, but are pretty decent in the right set up. They simply have too much to do how we play.


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To a certain extent I agree but DDG cannot be blamed for unforced individual errors that the likes of Bailey, Lindelof (moreso than anyone) and Maguire have grown accustomed to making. We don't have players who enjoy defending, they make basic errors one associates with amateurs. So DDG can't be blamed for that but I get what you mean. DDGs lack of ownership of the area transmits nervous energy to the defence, quite possibly.

In the past we had a team of leaders who took responsibility, engaged in game management. It's this lack of leadership, organisational skills & poor communication that's leading to incohesion along the back line.

The other damning reason is the defence is simply not good enough individually or as a unit. DDG is apportioned a tiny part of the blame for the lack of cohesion.

If your foundation has cracks then it bodes badly for the other functional areas of the team too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah can't really argue with that.

And I could be way wrong but I do think being constantly under pressure and found out of position has something to do with what's in front.

I often wonder how we can have all 10 of our men in our half but we get walked through
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That intensity, work rate we saw for most of the game V Newcastle is not always there. Is it because we pick and choose when to turn up? Are to players instructed to sit back? The truth could be a bit of both. If it's Ole and his staff then he'll get found it eventually, if it's the players then it's unforgivable.

I just don't get it either. When we play with intensity, with tempo we are capable of giving anyone a game but there is a big caveat with tonight's win, it was only one win against a poor Newcastle side, we are yet to show consistency so I must temper my enthusiasm and not get carried away. We should never forget the debacle against Spurs, that was our true measure and messed up in a big way. Let's hope that was a harsh lesson that drives the players to turn up in every game!

posted 2 days, 20 hours ago

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 33 minutes ago

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Only way I see it working is to have a 3 man defence with 2 of matic/fred/mct in front

Then play Pogba vdb and Bruno in front. All these can interchange and play on the wing too if needed. Although currently we tend to go through the middle a lot

The 2 in front of the 3 defenders can go back to make the defence a 5 if needed or move up to make a 5 man MF

The main thing is the skill levels of pogba dvb and Bruno would see us playing a lot slicker and hopefully we would hold the ball for longer.

Having james as a winger isn't better than even having Pogba as a winger imo. Pogba may not have james pace but is a far better footballer and can cross a ball
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We have enough players for Ole to start experimenting, but Ole is not an experimenting type. I would love to see the below in a game.


3-4-1-2

Hendo

Tuanzebe Maguire Shaw

AWB. MCT. Beeks Telles

Bruno

Cavani. Rashfird




When defending Telles and AWB would drop back along with McT to protect the 3 CBs. In attack the wingbacks would provide width and one of tbe CBs, say slab, would carry the ball into midfield and attack, giving extra numbers and bodies.

Apart from AWB, Telles is known for his deliveries which Cavani would thrive on. Add the creativity and goal threat from Beeky and Bruno and you have a menacing team.

If the strategy is to attack it could be devastating but such formations do have a tendency for being overly defensive.

Ole is fixated by this damn 4-2-3-1 but needs a plan B to make things interesting.

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