Aubameyang on the left

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 8 seconds ago
"If you want to argue that Aubameyang is effective up front despite not being a very well rounded striker than fair enough, you'd clearly be right about that."


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"despite not being a very well rounded striker"

And you know more than Tuchel right? Who actually always thought he was a very rounded striker?
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Faaacking hate the "you know less than the manager" argument it's so lazy and can be used to argue anything

Arteta thinks aubameyang should be playing on the left, do you know more than him?

Has tuchel even said that aubameyang is well rounded?
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Already answered that but lets try again.

A lot of Arsenal fans imo get the wrong end of the stick to why Arteta is playing him out wide. Its not because Aubameyang cannot play successfully as a lone striker. Its because he is a victim of his own success. Klopp bought Auba to Dortmund whilst Lewa was still there. And he adapted, was successful. However after Lewa left, Tuchel moved him to the middle where he performed better in the lone striker role. Wenger bought Auba while Lacazette was already at Arsenal and repeated the conundrum Dortmund had. Emery just tried to keep all people happy. Laca was big enough to accept playing wide again and lets face it, one golden boot and missing out another by 1 goal shows he can do that role just as well.

Arteta however actively tried to sell Lacazette this summer. He in fact had serious discussions with Juve but they decided to go another route with a striker asking for less money. Arteta was not doing that with the idea that he would buy another striker to play in the middle and I doubt Auba would signed an extension if that was the plan. The plan was made clear, buy Aouar to play left or no.10, and use Willian no.10 as a backup, Pepe on the right.

But it didn't happen. Lacazette is still here and we didn't complete the Aouar deal.

We'll see how long Auba on the wing lasts when Arteta combines Partey into the team and probably changes formation.

In your last 2 games nketiah and willian have been played upfront whilst auba has been played wide. I'm not sure "arteta is trying to fit Laca in" is a good excuse when that's not happening all of the time and yet auba is still wide.

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 6 seconds ago
In your last 2 games nketiah and willian have been played upfront whilst auba has been played wide. I'm not sure "arteta is trying to fit Laca in" is a good excuse when that's not happening all of the time and yet auba is still wide.
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Thats because Partey has just arrived at Arsenal. Its going to take time to integrate him. So we are persisting with 3-4-3. Arteta has already said a while ago he prefers a back 4 and that is his long term plan. but you do what you can with squad you inherit. It takes time to bring in the players you want to play the style you want!

Yeah maybe aubameyang will end up playing up front, will not change the fact that he isn't a complete forward in the lewa or benzema mould.

But if you want to believe that auba wins aerial duels, can hold the ball up and play with his back to goal, drop off into midfield and link play, find pockets of space to play in runners ahead of him than more power to you, we can agree to disagree

Also, why would the fact partey isn't playing mean that willian has to play centrally instead of aubameyang?

Ah forget it, don't wanna keep going round and round in circles

Like I said above. We will only know for sure whether Auba can handle role role in England as well as he did at Dortmund when he is tried in that position. But from all the moves that Edu/Arteta have tried to make suggests that is their end plan.

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 36 seconds ago
Also, why would the fact partey isn't playing mean that willian has to play centrally instead of aubameyang?

Ah forget it, don't wanna keep going round and round in circles
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Arteta played:

Auba--------Pepe
-------Willian-----

Wenger did that years ago.

Henry--------Wiltord
-----Bergkamp-----

Didn't work then and didn't really against City. But tbf to Arteta, we created the more dangerous chances and had we taken one or two, Arteta would have been called a genius.

comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 1 day, 2 hours ago
Auba on the left is not necessarily a problem. Having 3 attackers on the field is not an issue either. The problem we have is we have no creativity. That includes from our attackers. Auba is a great finisher but let's be honest...he cannot hold the ball up and his passing is average. He is also nowhere near as capable as Henry, RvP or Sanchez were at "moments of magic". He simply cannot create something out of nothing. He is very reliant on service and is phenomenally clinical. Lacazette and Pepe as well...not creative or magical enough. Pepe has the ability and has shown it in flashes but we don't have players who run at opposition and scare them into committing fouls etc. Yesterday, Saka was the only one who ran at defenders and drew fouls and got Man City players carded. He is also the one who got in behind the defence for shots and crosses a few times. We need the same from the other 2 playing up top.

Our formation invites us to sit deep. We find ourselves more often than not in our own half and with the lackmof creativity, we cannot advance play...we pass sideways and backwards. Until we have a midfielder who can spring passes through the midfield and beyond the back four, we will continue to suffer theses drab displays. Auba tries to run beyond but it is rare to see a pass that looks to set him free behind the back line. Pepe, Willian.and Lacazette all want ball to feet. This makes it easy to play against us as you know there is minimal threat behind you as opposition defenders.

I know this is long winded. TLDR: Auba is just fine on the left provided we create chances for him and the other forwards
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Careful now, they dont take to kindly to objective analysis of Auba around here 🤐

comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 1 day, 2 hours ago
Auba on the left is not necessarily a problem. Having 3 attackers on the field is not an issue either. The problem we have is we have no creativity. That includes from our attackers. Auba is a great finisher but let's be honest...he cannot hold the ball up and his passing is average. He is also nowhere near as capable as Henry, RvP or Sanchez were at "moments of magic". He simply cannot create something out of nothing. He is very reliant on service and is phenomenally clinical. Lacazette and Pepe as well...not creative or magical enough. Pepe has the ability and has shown it in flashes but we don't have players who run at opposition and scare them into committing fouls etc. Yesterday, Saka was the only one who ran at defenders and drew fouls and got Man City players carded. He is also the one who got in behind the defence for shots and crosses a few times. We need the same from the other 2 playing up top.

Our formation invites us to sit deep. We find ourselves more often than not in our own half and with the lackmof creativity, we cannot advance play...we pass sideways and backwards. Until we have a midfielder who can spring passes through the midfield and beyond the back four, we will continue to suffer theses drab displays. Auba tries to run beyond but it is rare to see a pass that looks to set him free behind the back line. Pepe, Willian.and Lacazette all want ball to feet. This makes it easy to play against us as you know there is minimal threat behind you as opposition defenders.

I know this is long winded. TLDR: Auba is just fine on the left provided we create chances for him and the other forwards
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Careful now, they dont take to kindly to objective analysis of Auba around here 🤐
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Try say anything NOT positive about Emi Martinez...

comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Logical One (U20872)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 1 day, 2 hours ago
Auba on the left is not necessarily a problem. Having 3 attackers on the field is not an issue either. The problem we have is we have no creativity. That includes from our attackers. Auba is a great finisher but let's be honest...he cannot hold the ball up and his passing is average. He is also nowhere near as capable as Henry, RvP or Sanchez were at "moments of magic". He simply cannot create something out of nothing. He is very reliant on service and is phenomenally clinical. Lacazette and Pepe as well...not creative or magical enough. Pepe has the ability and has shown it in flashes but we don't have players who run at opposition and scare them into committing fouls etc. Yesterday, Saka was the only one who ran at defenders and drew fouls and got Man City players carded. He is also the one who got in behind the defence for shots and crosses a few times. We need the same from the other 2 playing up top.

Our formation invites us to sit deep. We find ourselves more often than not in our own half and with the lackmof creativity, we cannot advance play...we pass sideways and backwards. Until we have a midfielder who can spring passes through the midfield and beyond the back four, we will continue to suffer theses drab displays. Auba tries to run beyond but it is rare to see a pass that looks to set him free behind the back line. Pepe, Willian.and Lacazette all want ball to feet. This makes it easy to play against us as you know there is minimal threat behind you as opposition defenders.

I know this is long winded. TLDR: Auba is just fine on the left provided we create chances for him and the other forwards
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Careful now, they dont take to kindly to objective analysis of Auba around here 🤐
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Try say anything NOT positive about Emi Martinez...
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I know I've been there haha, some very rational minds on this board...