On this day a year ago, Jose arrived

comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 1 minute ago
I know this isn’t a Poch v Jose article, but I’m pretty sure Jose would be ahead at the same stage.

Poch was under immense pressure at one point because our football was t good and neither were the results.

Like Klopp, Jose needs time.

He’s massively improved our results since he took over.
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Jose needs time? That’s not why you bring Jose in. Historically he’s not spent more than 3 seasons anywhere and the 3rd usually includes fallouts and drop offs in performance.

He organises, he brings mental and strategic preparation and, more often than not, he brings results and they come pretty quickly. But it’s time limited.

Klopp’s progression in terms of results was much slower. But you could see what he was trying to do. That isn’t historically what you get from Jose though because his combative style means he’s not there for the long haul.

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 1 minute ago
I know this isn’t a Poch v Jose article, but I’m pretty sure Jose would be ahead at the same stage.

Poch was under immense pressure at one point because our football was t good and neither were the results.

Like Klopp, Jose needs time.

He’s massively improved our results since he took over.
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Jose needs time? That’s not why you bring Jose in. Historically he’s not spent more than 3 seasons anywhere and the 3rd usually includes fallouts and drop offs in performance.

He organises, he brings mental and strategic preparation and, more often than not, he brings results and they come pretty quickly. But it’s time limited.

Klopp’s progression in terms of results was much slower. But you could see what he was trying to do. That isn’t historically what you get from Jose though because his combative style means he’s not there for the long haul.
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Jose works for Tottenham, not the other way around.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sandy and Don sulking over on the other side, not getting any attention
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Living rent free in their heads.
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two articles same topic, however on one everyone is filtered. yours is better anyway sizz, it has voting.

comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
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comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 1 minute ago
I know this isn’t a Poch v Jose article, but I’m pretty sure Jose would be ahead at the same stage.

Poch was under immense pressure at one point because our football was t good and neither were the results.

Like Klopp, Jose needs time.

He’s massively improved our results since he took over.
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Jose needs time? That’s not why you bring Jose in. Historically he’s not spent more than 3 seasons anywhere and the 3rd usually includes fallouts and drop offs in performance.

He organises, he brings mental and strategic preparation and, more often than not, he brings results and they come pretty quickly. But it’s time limited.

Klopp’s progression in terms of results was much slower. But you could see what he was trying to do. That isn’t historically what you get from Jose though because his combative style means he’s not there for the long haul.
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Jose works for Tottenham, not the other way around.
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Not sure what you mean by this?

Spurs have employed a man with a known style and track record, both the good and the bad. You expect his performance to be different than in the past? You think Levy will get more from him in terms of sustained success?

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 1 minute ago
I know this isn’t a Poch v Jose article, but I’m pretty sure Jose would be ahead at the same stage.

Poch was under immense pressure at one point because our football was t good and neither were the results.

Like Klopp, Jose needs time.

He’s massively improved our results since he took over.
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Jose needs time? That’s not why you bring Jose in. Historically he’s not spent more than 3 seasons anywhere and the 3rd usually includes fallouts and drop offs in performance.

He organises, he brings mental and strategic preparation and, more often than not, he brings results and they come pretty quickly. But it’s time limited.

Klopp’s progression in terms of results was much slower. But you could see what he was trying to do. That isn’t historically what you get from Jose though because his combative style means he’s not there for the long haul.
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Jose works for Tottenham, not the other way around.
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Not sure what you mean by this?

Spurs have employed a man with a known style and track record, both the good and the bad. You expect his performance to be different than in the past? You think Levy will get more from him in terms of sustained success?
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Thing is, even United fans were relatively upbeat during Mourinho's second season because they were winning games (and trophies tbf). Football fans aren't known for their long-term forecasting. What matters to most is whether the team is winning right now.

Some were upbeat, many weren’t because the football we had inflicted on us was the kind of torture you’d expect in Guantanamo Bay.

comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 1 minute ago
I know this isn’t a Poch v Jose article, but I’m pretty sure Jose would be ahead at the same stage.

Poch was under immense pressure at one point because our football was t good and neither were the results.

Like Klopp, Jose needs time.

He’s massively improved our results since he took over.
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Jose needs time? That’s not why you bring Jose in. Historically he’s not spent more than 3 seasons anywhere and the 3rd usually includes fallouts and drop offs in performance.

He organises, he brings mental and strategic preparation and, more often than not, he brings results and they come pretty quickly. But it’s time limited.

Klopp’s progression in terms of results was much slower. But you could see what he was trying to do. That isn’t historically what you get from Jose though because his combative style means he’s not there for the long haul.
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Jose works for Tottenham, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not sure what you mean by this?

Spurs have employed a man with a known style and track record, both the good and the bad. You expect his performance to be different than in the past? You think Levy will get more from him in terms of sustained success?
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Thing is, even United fans were relatively upbeat during Mourinho's second season because they were winning games (and trophies tbf). Football fans aren't known for their long-term forecasting. What matters to most is whether the team is winning right now.


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Sure, don’t disagree. But the point I originally challenged was that Jose needs time. He’s never needed time anywhere, he gets to grips with the squad quickly, brings results and then burns out. That’s the cycle seen to date anyway.

comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sandy and Don sulking over on the other side, not getting any attention
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Living rent free in their heads.
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two articles same topic, however on one everyone is filtered. yours is better anyway sizz, it has voting.
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comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 15 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Doherty Sanchez (U3338)
posted 1 minute ago
I know this isn’t a Poch v Jose article, but I’m pretty sure Jose would be ahead at the same stage.

Poch was under immense pressure at one point because our football was t good and neither were the results.

Like Klopp, Jose needs time.

He’s massively improved our results since he took over.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Jose needs time? That’s not why you bring Jose in. Historically he’s not spent more than 3 seasons anywhere and the 3rd usually includes fallouts and drop offs in performance.

He organises, he brings mental and strategic preparation and, more often than not, he brings results and they come pretty quickly. But it’s time limited.

Klopp’s progression in terms of results was much slower. But you could see what he was trying to do. That isn’t historically what you get from Jose though because his combative style means he’s not there for the long haul.
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Jose works for Tottenham, not the other way around.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not sure what you mean by this?

Spurs have employed a man with a known style and track record, both the good and the bad. You expect his performance to be different than in the past? You think Levy will get more from him in terms of sustained success?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thing is, even United fans were relatively upbeat during Mourinho's second season because they were winning games (and trophies tbf). Football fans aren't known for their long-term forecasting. What matters to most is whether the team is winning right now.


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Sure, don’t disagree. But the point I originally challenged was that Jose needs time. He’s never needed time anywhere, he gets to grips with the squad quickly, brings results and then burns out. That’s the cycle seen to date anyway.

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Preaching to the choir mate, I watched it happen at Real, Chelsea and United. Been singing this tune since his name was first mentioned for the Spurs gig, I can't stand the bloke

Usually the fans who plead that winning isn't everything are fans of teams who rarely win anything.
Curious isn't it?