I think this match sums up our problems more than any other.
We can be so impotent in front of goal and its almost as if you can see what's going to happen after 10 minutes but have to sit through another 80 minutes of it.
We are so effective with our quick inter passing to get out of defence, out of tight spots in midfield, yet we get to final third and it changes to absolute garbage crossing, I mean garbage.
I felt we missed Costa starting, like his pace, didn't feel Raphinia showed that much to be fair.
Once they go down to 10 men, you just know we're never going to break them down as we are most effective with fast flowing counter attacks, when we slow it down we never seem to find the way through.
The ratio of chances we had to the number we got on target was really poor, we just never really put the opponents under pressure and yet when Arsenal attacked, my heart was in my mouth and thank the lord that we had Meslier in goal rather than Kiko to pull off that point saving save.
Too often, we look impotent, I don't know how Bielsa solves it with what he has, but it's sucking the life out of matches. The pundits might say it was great to watch but as a Leeds fan its deja vu and to be honest not fun to see us never look like scoring.
Feels a bit unfair to say after hitting woodwork three times, but we could have played for 3 hours and not scored.
Have to give credit to Arsenal for a very composed performance and to be honest unlucky to go down to 10 men, it wasn't a niggly game and the butt was hardly the most violent of conduct but rules are rules.
Thoughts from today
posted on 23/11/20
comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 10 minutes ago
Wonder if KB is incontinent and wakes up in pile of dung every day. I hope so
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I don't spend much time wishing ill on others.
But for that tw4T I could spend hours. Hope
he hates every minute of every game played.
Sh *t human.
posted on 23/11/20
comment by The Spanish Italians - it’s all coming home again (U21595)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by tslufc (U12903)
posted 4 hours, 19 minutes ago
Philips coming back made us much more solid however I am still not sure about our defence. Arsenal really offered zero threat so a clean sheet whilst welcome should not be seen as a great achievement.
As stated by others on here, the inability to take good chances is a real worry. Others need to step up and not expect Bamford to score all our goals.
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tslufc.. agree about KP, and have to agree ref taking chances, but I think Raph, Rodrigo are that quality about that will take those chances.
the rest I totaly disagree with the logic.. "Arsenal really offered zero threat so a clean sheet whilst welcome should not be seen as a great achievement".. mate, I can't make any sense of it.. surely by dominating the game WE limit that ability to take chances..
again, have a little step back and think we played Arsenal off the park and we unlucky not to win (hitting bar twice and the post once) who are a seasoned premier league team.. it was 5 months ago or so we lost to Cardiff when we were a champioship club who could only dream of the premier league we'd been out so long.
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Fair enough points, we dominated the games against Leicester and Palace as well but without KP they got at us with pacey counter attacks. Let's hope yesterday was a reset for us and we can go back to being hard to score against.
posted on 23/11/20
We are crying out for a 10
Erikson is available why not try our luck
Serious player who would be like Pablo in terms of his control and the “eye of a needle” you need in games like this
Our style suits counter attack and when we have to have control and try and break down we have struggled for years
I appreciate we did create some chances and question marks over the finishing too
posted on 24/11/20
omment by tslufc (U12903)
posted 13 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - it’s all coming home again (U21595)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by tslufc (U12903)
posted 4 hours, 19 minutes ago
Philips coming back made us much more solid however I am still not sure about our defence. Arsenal really offered zero threat so a clean sheet whilst welcome should not be seen as a great achievement.
As stated by others on here, the inability to take good chances is a real worry. Others need to step up and not expect Bamford to score all our goals.
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tslufc.. agree about KP, and have to agree ref taking chances, but I think Raph, Rodrigo are that quality about that will take those chances.
the rest I totaly disagree with the logic.. "Arsenal really offered zero threat so a clean sheet whilst welcome should not be seen as a great achievement".. mate, I can't make any sense of it.. surely by dominating the game WE limit that ability to take chances..
again, have a little step back and think we played Arsenal off the park and we unlucky not to win (hitting bar twice and the post once) who are a seasoned premier league team.. it was 5 months ago or so we lost to Cardiff when we were a champioship club who could only dream of the premier league we'd been out so long.
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Fair enough points, we dominated the games against Leicester and Palace as well but without KP they got at us with pacey counter attacks. Let's hope yesterday was a reset for us and we can go back to being hard to score against.
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here here ts...
another thing we shouldn't forget as you rightly bring up the absence of KP.. last couple of games (pre arsenal) we've been unable to field our strongest side, without Rodrigo, KP, both huge players for us.
you could say we should have cover, but realistically are we going to spend a fortune on cover, that might not play.. and if not, and you try and do it on the cheap, whats the point in spedning at all.. using young hungry already adapted to beilsa ball squad players makes more sense, especially when you consider its our first season back, and there is a pandemic on, menaing we're not taking / making money from the gates.
convinced we have the formular right - but we should all expect, given the way we play, that we're going to get thumped now and again, like all other premier league teams do at some point.
we're also going to win some... a 12th finish would be a good acheivment, the first season back.. then kick on, with a an established Rodrigo, Raph, etc etc...
posted on 24/11/20
I thought the match was dire and from a Leeds POV worrying, coming off successive bad defeats.
One of the worst games I've seen on TV so far this season regarding skill factor....I lost count of misplaced passes, shots over the bar or wide, not much technique on show, apart from Rodrigo.
Arsenal were dire too, no creativity, I feel they were there for the taking, playing with 10 men, but Leeds were short of inspiration to break their defence.
Let me go through the players and comment on their creativity in this particular game....
Ayling....no creativity so many misplaced passes, 5
Dallas....usually consistent, no creativity, 5
Koch....no creativity I could see, poor shooting, 5
Cooper...some good long passes, but not conspicuously creative, defensively suspect, 6
Phillips....again played good long passes, sound, 6
Klick....hard working as usual, but poor I thought, 5
The forwards, no creativity whatsoever, apart from Rodrigo, 6 mark, the others 5....
My prediction was a 13th finish but we're drifting down the wrong end, the league table is settling down, a few more defeats in the next games and we could be fighting relegation!
posted on 24/11/20
well you've right cheered me up NJS
posted on 24/11/20
comment by Yorkie_116 (U2965)
posted 20 hours, 48 minutes ago
We are crying out for a 10
Erikson is available why not try our luck
Serious player who would be like Pablo in terms of his control and the “eye of a needle” you need in games like this
Our style suits counter attack and when we have to have control and try and break down we have struggled for years
I appreciate we did create some chances and question marks over the finishing too
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Yorkie, I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday when I read he was free to leave in January. It would be a great move. However, I doubt very much MB would see him as a part of our team (based on recent history).
On the flip, not sure he'd be interested in us. Manchester club we loathe is sniffing around him. Maybe Spurs might want him back also?
Still, heck of a player.
posted on 24/11/20
Yeah agree Batty
There would be other options available. Ozil has the talent but his wage age and attitude may count against him. Then again Pablo has proved age is no object
We clearly want a 10 as we went for the French lad, so maybe one to keep an eye out for
posted on 26/11/20
Brilliant Jonty my thoughts exactly except for your comments about Raphinia .I think he will be very good.Love your comments after all the matches.
posted on 30/11/20
comment by The Donn (U15142)
posted 4 days, 3 hours ago
Brilliant Jonty my thoughts exactly except for your comments about Raphinia .I think he will be very good.Love your comments after all the matches.
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I didnt see that much of him in teh Arsenal match, but he was standout v Everton, really impressive, just need teh other players to get on his wavelength