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What we are missing to win it...

I am unlike a lot of the fans talking about winning the league. I still think that the next few games will tell us a lot about our chances. I would say that there is potential, but nothing more.

My feeling is that we are probably 2 players away from being able to win the title.

Firstly, a top class CB. Now, I am one of those people that has been saying for the last 6-9 months that Dier will eventually develop into one but he is not there yet. Toby on the other hand is not what he used to be unfortunately, although we have started to see him come back into form. What I would give to see a player like Ledley King in his prime to partner either Toby or Dier!

Secondly, I fear that we don't have the creativity to break teams down in those tight games against the so called "lesser teams". Ndombele will develop into that player surely but, like Dier, is not quite there yet. I would have loved to have had a motivated Eriksen to choose from although I am not really sure if he'd make the first 11.

The good news is that we might actually have the players already in place to win it. And with luck with injuries you never know. The bad news is that these players have never been able to show the consistency needed to go for a whole season and I cannot see it happening this year either.

In my view we need the regulars to continue doing what they are doing as well as a coming of age for Eric Dier and the realization of the massive potential that Ndombele has for us to achieve the impossible.

How do you see it?

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
The worry for me is that we are more reliant on Kane than ever before. With him missing we don’t have a 10 with long distance creativity, also I worry about us without Alderweireld. For us to truly challenge I think we need those two fit almost the whole season.
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We might do ok without them for a bit. You never know. Look at how Liverpool have kept things going with their injuries.

If there is enough belief in the team then I would trust the team to keep getting the wins even without our best players.
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If he had an injury break like he has had last few seasons then I think it’d effect us. Which is why we need to rest him as much as we can in the non-PL matches.

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Phenom - least knowledgeable spurs poster 2019/20 (U20037)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 39 minutes ago
CM you say? This should make a few people horny..

#thfc have made their interest in signing Marcel Sabitzer known several times with a transfer conceivable. The player is keen to play @PremierLeague football. [Sport Bild]
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Does he play wide now for Leipzig cause ive heard that somewhere
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No idea. Seems to be on the bench alot.

posted on 25/11/20

something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons

Hafi Time

Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.

Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36

If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.

If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.

Lloris 20/21 -0.12

If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.

It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons

Hafi Time

Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.

Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36

If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.

If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.

Lloris 20/21 -0.12

If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.

It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
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Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons

Hafi Time

Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.

Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36

If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.

If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.

Lloris 20/21 -0.12

If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.

It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
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Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
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assume you mean Alisson?

18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17

posted on 25/11/20

Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.

comment by add912 (U9189)

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons

Hafi Time

Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.

Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36

If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.

If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.

Lloris 20/21 -0.12

If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.

It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
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Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
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assume you mean Alisson?

18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17

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Interesting statistic, but to me sounds like a consultant making up metrics to sell something. I guess the guys at Opta need to keep "innovating".

So many questions really... How do you define the difficulty of the save? It is subjective.



posted on 25/11/20

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 minutes ago
Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.
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https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepersadv/Premier-League-Stats

Can find this season's keepers here for the PL under player advanced goalkeeping

posted on 25/11/20

comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
something that isn't getting spoken about enough is that Hugo needs to get back to the shot stopping level he was at the last 2 seasons

Hafi Time

Post Shot Expected Goals +/- per 90 is how many goals you're conceding compared to what you would be expected to based on the quality of the shots you're facing. A positive number means you're conceding fewer goals than you'd be expected to, a negative means you're conceding more than you'd be expected to.

Lloris 18/19 +0.34
Lloris 19/20 +0.36

If you're still confused essentially this means that lloris was keeping out an extra goal every 3 games more than you would have expected him to given the shots he was facing.

If that doesn't sound like a lot, it is. In De Gea's lauded 17/18 season he hit +0.21 per 90.

Lloris 20/21 -0.12

If that doesn't sound that bad, it is. It's about where Jordan Pickford was at last season.

It's very early in the season still so we're dealing with a small sample size but it's something to think about even if you think stats are useles
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Might you have similar stats for other goalkeepers in the league?
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assume you mean Alisson?

18/19 +0.13
19/20 +0.02 (was much higher before project restart)
20/21 +0.17

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Interesting statistic, but to me sounds like a consultant making up metrics to sell something. I guess the guys at Opta need to keep "innovating".

So many questions really... How do you define the difficulty of the save? It is subjective.




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If you're curious you can read about post Shot Expected goal here though this can be quite a jarring read and I understand the scepticism

https://statsbomb.com/2018/11/a-new-way-to-measure-keepers-shot-stopping-post-shot-expected-goals/

posted on 25/11/20

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 54 minutes ago
Genuinely wanted to see stats for all keepers, or at least the top clubs.
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https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/keepersadv/Premier-League-Stats

Can find this season's keepers here for the PL under player advanced goalkeeping
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