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Maradona (who was a cheat BTW)

So an Argentinian died today.

I'm fairly sure that actually many thousands did.

Why we should feel anything more for a drug addled footballing cheat than for any of the others is beyond me.

posted on 26/11/20

comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by CromulentMart (U1286)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 26 minutes ago
Maybe I will be remembered for a generation.

But in England, he will always be remembered as a cheat.
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Just like Thierry Henri then?
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Most people in England remember Henry for his brilliance at Arsenal. Doubt many give a shiiiit about his handball unless their parents or Irish.
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Yep but that's what's pertinent. No-one outside of England will give a shiiiiiiiiiiit about that one handlball.

posted on 26/11/20

Butt-hurt English “men” are the only ones I have seen who have anything derogatory to say about the passing of arguably one of footballs greatest ever players.

As a Welshman, I have no problem saying that he was an absolute footballing genius, and it’s a shame that his lifestyle and addictions led to his premature death.

posted on 26/11/20

Imagine there were a few Brazilians that weren’t happy about it. That said, like many Englishman, in fact, they’ll have gotten over it.

posted on 26/11/20

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
Maybe I will be remembered for a generation.

But in England, he will always be remembered as a cheat.
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No he won't
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He will and he is. Its the first thing that any English man thinks about on hearing his name. How good he was comes second. His off the field lifestyle 3rd.

posted on 26/11/20

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
Maybe I will be remembered for a generation.

But in England, he will always be remembered as a cheat.
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No he won't
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He will and he is. Its the first thing that any English man thinks about on hearing his name. How good he was comes second. His off the field lifestyle 3rd.
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Two different points though. First one was "all he will be remembered as is a cheat". That clearly isn't true. In fact, you have literally listed two other things that he will be remembered as.

posted on 26/11/20

Tbf, he didn’t say all he will be remembered as is a cheat.

I think Maradona’s cheating ways and football brilliance are synonymous with the man. There’s obviously levels to how much people care, but I don’t think it changes the fact.

That England game is his most iconic game. It perfectly encapsulates Maradona as a player with the two most memorable moments in world cup history - the hand of god (his cheating) and THAT goal (his genius with a football).

posted on 26/11/20

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by GunaDave (U7710)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
Maybe I will be remembered for a generation.

But in England, he will always be remembered as a cheat.
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No he won't
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He will and he is. Its the first thing that any English man thinks about on hearing his name. How good he was comes second. His off the field lifestyle 3rd.
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Two different points though. First one was "all he will be remembered as is a cheat". That clearly isn't true. In fact, you have literally listed two other things that he will be remembered as.
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That is true.

posted on 26/11/20

That small word "all" is important.

posted on 26/11/20

yeah, good point. Completely misread that.

posted on 27/11/20

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 day, 4 hours ago
comment by Kingdom of Davids (U21957)
posted 6 hours, 37 minutes ago

nonsense... Someone is addicted to pepsi/coke is not a threat to the society as much as a coke addict...

It's like comparing bicycle accident to crashing your car in a pond..
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Weird that that's what you took from that comment, because it's not what I meant or what we were discussing...at all!

It's another interesting discussion to be had, nevertheless.

If you're talking threat in terms of crime, then I'd argue that the greatest problem related to illegal drugs has to with prohibition and accessibility rather than the consequences of the drug in and of itself, even while recognising that someone high on cocaine can be more dangerous than someone high on, er, coke. This has been borne out in a number of countries that have run programmes to ensure addicts a ready and safe supply of the drugs they're addicted to.

Secondly, if we're talking not just in terms of crime but also about the societal impact of sugar addiction, it's absolutely massive in industrialised nations, where obesity is one of the leading factors of mortality and morbidity due to its role and impact on heart disease, diabetes, respiratory illnesses and a whole host of other conditions.


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I am in noway encouraging sugary foods

My point is, a coke addict inflicts more damage on others and society than someone who piles up donuts all-day

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