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Luiz head injury

This was an accident. However the response of the Arsenal medical team , Arteta, and the Referee was unacceptable. Like in rugby he should have been forced off for a HIA ( head injury assessment), if he passed this then he could resume. The referee should have 'medically' sent him off ( Black card) if Arteta had not withdrawn him at this point. both the referee and Arteta should expect sanctions after this, the referee should never let him continue with blood seeping out of the wound - like Terry Butcher in Rome 25 years ago. WAKE UP FOOTBALL !!!!
I hope that Jimenez makes a full recovery- but think his season is probably over, Luiz should not play for at least 21 days after that frightful crack of heads.

posted on 30/11/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
Luiz passed the concussion tests.
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That doesn't mean that the test itself is correct though does it.

posted on 30/11/20

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
Luiz passed the concussion tests.
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That doesn't mean that the test itself is correct though does it.
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I don't think you can blame Arsenal if the test isn't good enough though.

posted on 30/11/20

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
Luiz passed the concussion tests.
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That doesn't mean that the test itself is correct though does it.
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I don't think you can blame Arsenal if the test isn't good enough though.
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Well I can because they are trained physios who should know better in that situation. Sometimes you have to go against what the protocol may say for the benefit of the player.

posted on 30/11/20

How can referees give penalties for minimal contact, but not see blood seeping through the head bandage on Luiz and not order him off for safety? with covid-19 even getting blood on the ball is a danger?
Equally Arteta had a duty of care to Luiz, must have been aware of the blood, with a direct replacement in Holding no question he should have gone off for safety. that's why they should be sanctioned?

posted on 30/11/20

comment by GrJ Berks (U21299)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
How can referees give penalties for minimal contact, but not see blood seeping through the head bandage on Luiz and not order him off for safety? with covid-19 even getting blood on the ball is a danger?
Equally Arteta had a duty of care to Luiz, must have been aware of the blood, with a direct replacement in Holding no question he should have gone off for safety. that's why they should be sanctioned?
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As far as I know blood is not a transport agent for coronavirus.

However, I said immediately he needed to be subbed off, you simply cannot continue playing like that, especially as a CB that needs to head the ball, you cannot afford to have any cause for hesitation as a defender... Then we conceded two goals.

🙄

posted on 30/11/20

I was disappointed in Arteta for keeping him on the pitch, surely in instances like that he's gotta be looking out for the well being of his players?

That said, if he's told by his medical team then it's fine, maybe he just goes on good faith. Maybe that is naive.

Either way there needs to be things in place to avoid someone slipping through the cracks.

posted on 30/11/20

Although you started off pointing the finger at Arsenal's medical team or coaches, you eventually got to the real point. Football needs to address this and make definitive rule changes. And I just can't see any reason not to change things and to do it now.

Until football makes concussion substitutions mandatory, whether that means temporary subs like rugby's blood bin, or extra subs outside the usual 3, clubs will always do the bare minimal and quickest "concussion protocol" checks they can do to minimise the time the player is off the pitch. At the moment you are literally at a disadvantage to properly look after your player, as you are either down a player while you properly assess him, or you lose one of your 3 subs for someone who is potentially going to be fine to carry on after he clears his head.

It's FIFA who need their heads checked! ehehehe

posted on 30/11/20

Play stopped for 9 minutes. He was assessed in that time. Are you suggesting that any player who has a head injury should have a minimum time taken to asses them, maybe you think it should take 15 minutes.

posted on 30/11/20

comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 1 minute ago
Play stopped for 9 minutes. He was assessed in that time. Are you suggesting that any player who has a head injury should have a minimum time taken to asses them, maybe you think it should take 15 minutes.
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They should just be brought off full stop and monitored for a long time after.

I'm not an expert so I don't know how long the effects of concussion can last, but I think it can hit you a fair bit later. Putting yourself at risk by heading the ball just isn't worth it.

posted on 1/12/20

comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Play stopped for 9 minutes. He was assessed in that time. Are you suggesting that any player who has a head injury should have a minimum time taken to asses them, maybe you think it should take 15 minutes.
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Sure why not?

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