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Clear Issues

I watched you lot last night, fair play to you for topping your group but there are clear issues with your team that I can spot. I will list them below:

1) Alisson Becker

A world class, elite goalkeeper on his day but he's made of glass. I genuinely cannot think of a more injury prone goal keeper who's at his level. He's had about 5 injuries since the start of last season for you and you have to wonder how long he can actually last in a season before his body breaks down. I think Klopp said he will be out for another 2-3 weeks.

2) Sadio Mane

I have never ever seen Mane get bullied like he did last night by a defence. How many times did he get put through but simply lacked the pace to get away from his man and finish? I know he's not had many jnuries at Anfield but you do have to seriously consider now if he's just lost that yard of pace. There were so many occasions last night when he looked like he just couldn't sprint anymore.

3) Diogo Jota

I know this will cause a fury, but Jota is largely an average footballer. There are two things that I notice when I watch him. One is that he very rarely actually strikes a ball cleanly. This is something Sterling used to have in his game too, instead of making a clean connection he would just scuff it and Jota does the same. The other is that, whilst he's pacey, his dribbling and particularly his second or third touch when dribbling at pace are awful. He's had the chance in recent games to put his teammate in when running with the ball at speed but his second or third touch is like a shot, totally overruns it, and the chance is gone. It happened last night too and in a few other games this season. His delivery is poor too and I think his goals are kidding people into thinking he's a top player. He isn't.

I know people will largely disagree with the above and that's fine, but I would ask that you try and take the red tinted glasses off.

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 2/12/20

comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
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comment by Naby8 (U6997)
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comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
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comment by Naby8 (U6997)
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1) Alisson has missed 23 games in his career to date (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alisson/verletzungen/spieler/105470). Bit early to call it a clear issue.

2) He's in the best form of his career but had a very average game. If Mane is a clear issue then I would happily accept many, many clear issues.

3) Even if you're right about Jota then he becomes a back up player for us. No issues there.

Congratulation though, you've managed to highlight to a large number of people that you don't know what you're talking about. Or you're a sandy sock account which amounts to the same thing.
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To counter your points:

1) Out of the 28 games, how many have been since August 2019 that he's missed?

2) I didn't say Mane wasn't a great player. He does, however, look like he's lost pace in recent times and it showed last night

3) Fair enough. Do you actually agree with my points though about his ball connection and poor second touch?
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1) 18 games. Too many from our perspective but not a massive problem yet.

2) Even if you're right about Mane's pace (not saying you are) then he's in the best form of his career without that extra yard - that's a clear issue for you? Not my definition of an issue.

3) He has poor touches, every forward player does. His decision making isn't always perfect either. But he's 23 and will improve. The raw ability is there.

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18 games is enough to cost a team the league title when it's such a big player.


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He missed 14 games last season, we won the title.

posted on 2/12/20

comment by We're Italians, Robert, Whack means something else to us (U3979)
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comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
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comment by We're Italians, Robert, Whack means something else to us (U3979)
posted 17 minutes ago
Go on then, I'll bite.

1 - Alisson. He's had I think two injuries during his time with us, this current layoff is a precautionary one. Kelleher did the business last night so no complaints from me.

Is it a little frustrating? Absolutely, but he's the best keeper in the world so I'd rather have him in my squad than pretty much anybody else out there.

2. Mane. In a period of bad form (for him) but he's still a very lethal player. We've barely been able to put 11 men on the park at times this season, so the service to our forwards (especially when the bulk of our injuries have been in midfielder and Trent) has been patchy at best.

3. Jota. Had his worst game for us last night but has been excellent in his first weeks here. Managing to look on par with the best attack in the country. He's 23 and brand new to the squad, absolutely delighted to see him in a Liverpool shirt and he's proving to be a bargain.

The thing I think is worrying Spurs fans is that we currently have a full 11 on the sidelines, and despite claiming to have had an amazing start, you've not managed to pull away from us at all.

Injured 11 for reference...

Alisson
Trent Gomez VVD Milner
Thiago
Ox Keita
Shaqiri Origi Minamino
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We (Spurs) have not had an amazing start, just an okay start. We also have major fitness issues with our squad that has hampered us.

2 weeks today - can’t wait as it will be a cracker. I predict a draw though, which I think would suit us more.
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Is it at Anfield or your place?
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Anfield

posted on 2/12/20

comment by Dr Sheldon Cooper (U1217)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by We're Italians, Robert, Whack means something else to us (U3979)
posted 17 minutes ago
Go on then, I'll bite.

1 - Alisson. He's had I think two injuries during his time with us, this current layoff is a precautionary one. Kelleher did the business last night so no complaints from me.

Is it a little frustrating? Absolutely, but he's the best keeper in the world so I'd rather have him in my squad than pretty much anybody else out there.

2. Mane. In a period of bad form (for him) but he's still a very lethal player. We've barely been able to put 11 men on the park at times this season, so the service to our forwards (especially when the bulk of our injuries have been in midfielder and Trent) has been patchy at best.

3. Jota. Had his worst game for us last night but has been excellent in his first weeks here. Managing to look on par with the best attack in the country. He's 23 and brand new to the squad, absolutely delighted to see him in a Liverpool shirt and he's proving to be a bargain.

The thing I think is worrying Spurs fans is that we currently have a full 11 on the sidelines, and despite claiming to have had an amazing start, you've not managed to pull away from us at all.

Injured 11 for reference...

Alisson
Trent Gomez VVD Milner
Thiago
Ox Keita
Shaqiri Origi Minamino
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We (Spurs) have not had an amazing start, just an okay start. We also have major fitness issues with our squad that has hampered us.

2 weeks today - can’t wait as it will be a cracker. I predict a draw though, which I think would suit us more.
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I think a draw would suit us more to be honest, especially if half our team is still crocked. Once we get the December period out the way and (hopefully) get all our players back apart from VVD and Gomez, we should push on and go up a few levels.
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Even with your own fitness issues a draw at Anfield is never a bad result. We play you again very early in the new year as well - before the majority of your fitness issues clear up, I suspect that will be a must win for us if we are to get close to the title.

After that though Man City away is probably the only league game where we will not start as favourites.

posted on 2/12/20

Alli - is injury prone
Mane - is slightly out of form
Jota - Don't agree with that. He looks untidy yes but so does Salah.

posted on 2/12/20

Rate this type of article tbh, would be interesting to see it for other teams. Honest, slightly objective, criticism for other’s teams other fans have noted, even if thy know it’s not gunna be popular

posted on 2/12/20

comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
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comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 30 seconds ago
1) Alisson has missed 23 games in his career to date (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alisson/verletzungen/spieler/105470). Bit early to call it a clear issue.

2) He's in the best form of his career but had a very average game. If Mane is a clear issue then I would happily accept many, many clear issues.

3) Even if you're right about Jota then he becomes a back up player for us. No issues there.

Congratulation though, you've managed to highlight to a large number of people that you don't know what you're talking about. Or you're a sandy sock account which amounts to the same thing.
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To counter your points:

1) Out of the 28 games, how many have been since August 2019 that he's missed?

2) I didn't say Mane wasn't a great player. He does, however, look like he's lost pace in recent times and it showed last night

3) Fair enough. Do you actually agree with my points though about his ball connection and poor second touch?
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1) 18 games. Too many from our perspective but not a massive problem yet.

2) Even if you're right about Mane's pace (not saying you are) then he's in the best form of his career without that extra yard - that's a clear issue for you? Not my definition of an issue.

3) He has poor touches, every forward player does. His decision making isn't always perfect either. But he's 23 and will improve. The raw ability is there.

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18 games is enough to cost a team the league title when it's such a big player.


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He missed the first 12 last season, and we won the league by 18 points.

posted on 2/12/20

comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by We're Italians, Robert, Whack means something else to us (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by We're Italians, Robert, Whack means something else to us (U3979)
posted 17 minutes ago
Go on then, I'll bite.

1 - Alisson. He's had I think two injuries during his time with us, this current layoff is a precautionary one. Kelleher did the business last night so no complaints from me.

Is it a little frustrating? Absolutely, but he's the best keeper in the world so I'd rather have him in my squad than pretty much anybody else out there.

2. Mane. In a period of bad form (for him) but he's still a very lethal player. We've barely been able to put 11 men on the park at times this season, so the service to our forwards (especially when the bulk of our injuries have been in midfielder and Trent) has been patchy at best.

3. Jota. Had his worst game for us last night but has been excellent in his first weeks here. Managing to look on par with the best attack in the country. He's 23 and brand new to the squad, absolutely delighted to see him in a Liverpool shirt and he's proving to be a bargain.

The thing I think is worrying Spurs fans is that we currently have a full 11 on the sidelines, and despite claiming to have had an amazing start, you've not managed to pull away from us at all.

Injured 11 for reference...

Alisson
Trent Gomez VVD Milner
Thiago
Ox Keita
Shaqiri Origi Minamino
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We (Spurs) have not had an amazing start, just an okay start. We also have major fitness issues with our squad that has hampered us.

2 weeks today - can’t wait as it will be a cracker. I predict a draw though, which I think would suit us more.
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Is it at Anfield or your place?
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Anfield
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Not being a wum here but expect a comfortable victory then. We have a tendency to switch off in games and not show up but never against the better teams in the division. Our best performances have been v Leicester, Chelsea and Arsenal and Atalanta away, arguably our toughest fixtures so far.

posted on 2/12/20

The Alisson injury issue is quite worrying from a goalkeeper perspective, but Kelleher looks to have improved and looks as assured as any good goalkeeper based on last night's performances. He didn't put a foot wrong, so maybe he will be a great understudy to have.

Mane seems to be out of form at the moment. I think the commentators said he only has 1 goal in his previous 9 games, 10 now if you include last night, correct me if I am wrong. Either way just seems to be off it a little bit, peaks and troughs though with a footballer, nothing major and hopefully he will capture his best form over the busy Xmas schedule.

posted on 2/12/20

Id actually agree with points 1 and 2. Alisson picks up some amount of knocks and niggles for a goalie. Especially for a goalie that by and large has very little to do in a game.

Mane has been out of form ever since he came back from covid. I just wonder if his energy levels arent quite right due to the virus.

Your jota point i couldnt disagree with more. I'll concede last night his touch etc was way off but thats the 1st hes been like that since he signed. Hes been electric in every other game.

posted on 4/12/20

Account created less than a month ago. Which user is this then?

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