Ole’s in game management

TOOR they created 2 of those chances in like last 2 minutes when we were going all out. Even then Pogba smashed one just over and Fernandes headed it from close range at the keeper before PSG hd those late chances.

If both teams took there chances then it would have been an easy win for Man Utd. PSG only got those late chances as we were going all out for the goal. When we played a normal formation for 85 minutes PSG had created like 4 chances.

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It’s daft that second yellows can’t be reviewed.
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When you think of the time wasted on other incidents these wouldn't take long at all. Still, take it on the chin and go again. I'm pleased we competed very well against a good side. Could easily have won that match tonight. We should still go through.
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I said on the match thread that barring Fred, the players gave a good account of themselves tonight.

We actually moved the ball nicely, the forwards made decent runs, and we dealt with their forwards pretty well. Maguire and Lindelof were excellent again.

Plenty of positives.
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I thought your attack worked a lot better with Cavani in the middle instead of Martial. I think an even more positive change would be to bring Martial out, stick Rashford left and Greenwood right, although I understand Rashford may be injured and therefore that may be impossible.

Will be interesting to see what he does with Pogba also. Didn't do much when he came on, apart from the volley which was excellent technique, to be fair.
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One thing Pogba inarguably has.

Martial hasn’t really had a run of games on the left for well over a season now. That’s what’d worry me. I think we’d quickly notice the defensive deficiencies in his game again.

It’s a tricky one for Ole unless Rashford is out for a while. There are plenty of games coming and with that opportunities for rotation. But I’d think Martial would probably need a good few games out left to get his rhythm back there.

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We dominated PSG until the last 5 minutes really were we didn’t care about formation and let them have like a 3 vs 2 situation.

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Thought the only mistake was not taking Fred off tbh. On the balance of it we probably should have won the game, poor finishing cost us.
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Really? Thought PSG were the better team, apart from about a fifteen minute spell from United on the counter.
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Yes really we were better for around 45 minutes, and could have put the game to bed. We didn't and paid the price
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Disagree. Game was the pretty much even in the first half, perhaps with PSG edging it. Fred should have been sent off also. Second half United had a good fifteen minute spell on the counter and should have scored. Other than that, PSG were the better team, had the better chances, more skillful, better on the ball etc.

Perhaps if Fred had been taken off you may have nicked something but on the balance of play, 3-1 was a fair result.
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Can’t say I agree with your analysis there.
2-1 was a much fairer reflection of the game if not 1-1.

Martial’s chance? Cavani hitting the crossbar with a delightful chip?
It was a much more even game than a 3-1 score line suggests
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Marquinos hitting the bar, Bakker's chance, Mbappe's chance, scored three goals. 3-1 fair result. Could have been more if Fred was sent off in the first half, I suppose.
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None of those were the same level as martial’s chance and none of them came as close as Cavani’s.

I could list some more of our shots & chances but these are the main ones and only Marquinhos’ header came close to as significant chances. None of the others got me worried.

The point is that this game could easily have been 3-1 United, they only scored their third because we were trying to get the equaliser and their second (like our goal) wasn’t exactly a masterpiece.

12 vs 13 shots

5 v 6 on target

It was a pretty even game, maybe deserved the 2-1 but 3-1 is not a fair reflection.
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Huh? Both Cavani and Marquinos(so?) hit the bar, both as close as each other, surely? Martial shot miles over the bar once and straight into a defender the next. Bakker was through on goal and De Gea had to make a good save, so surely better than Martial's shots that weren't on target. Mbappe also through on goal, chose to shoot when pass to Neymar was the better option but perhaps should have scored anyhow. Better chances, more goals, played better, kept eleven on the pitch. 3-1 a fair reflection of the game. Yes United could have scored on the counter when they were dangerous for a fifteen minute period but apart from PSG's three goals, the could have scored themselves.
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Nah Marquinhos went over and hit the top of the bar on the way out, Cavani’s was flush against the bar.

Martial’s shot was awful yes but the chance was almost an empty net.

Other ‘neutral’ fans see it more my way so maybe it’s just opinion, everyone has one.

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It’s daft that second yellows can’t be reviewed.
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Said that on the main thread too!

It does open a can of worms though in that it won’t be long after that people will start saying soon afterwards to review first yellow offences too. It does feel wrong that they allow a clear and obvious error which creates that level of impact to stand though.

I asked on the match thread but does anyone think we don't concede the second if De Gea goes for the ball with his hands and body? Maybe I'm being really harsh but I think he could have been a little braver there.

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The issue with the Fred one was that it was a contentious decision in the first place and the referee would have known at half time at the very least. He was always going to be walking a tightrope in the second half, more so than just a normal yellow card. That and it was a battle in midfield, thought Mctominay was lucky not to be on a yellow by the end of the first half too tbh.

I do get why he would have wanted to keep him on though. Are
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Hi melts.

I thought it was a questionable decision, but not a terrible one.

Fred was the player we most needed out there in the midfield today. It was something of a gamble keeping him on, but not a ridiculous one.
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Hi rosso mate, how are you?

Yes I said the same on the main live thread, personally I thought it was yellow on first look. It’s one of those strange ones that actually looks worse in real time than in slo mo though and I’d be interested to know if the ref saw both on the pitch side monitor.

I would have kept him on too tbh, the only thing I would have done was made a change sooner after Tuchel did but ultimately, like I said earlier, the game should have been wrapped up by then anyway.

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I’m good mate, thanks. Hope all is well with you and the family.

It’s a funny (even funnier) old game the authorities have managed to ‘design’ now isn’t it, with yellow card offences resulting in sendings off arbitrarily unavailable for review when, for example, cases of mistaken identity by the ref can be?

I thought Fred should have been sent off first half, but then if the ref looks at the tackle resulting in the second booking pitchside (which he obviously can’t do) then there’s no way he hands out a second yellow IMO.
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All good thanks mate. Can’t wait for this year to be over!

Agree with all of that, it really is a mess at the mo. I’ll be honest, I’ve always been a Luddite with VAR and rather they cut down on replays and over analysis. Never going to happen now though.

I have found I’m enjoying championship games without it even more nowadays!

Ole has to take the L on this. All the criticism.
I dunno why Scholes is talking about hindsight when Everyman and their dog could see Fred needed to be hooked.
Count herself lucky Fred is still there at 65 mins.
Tucal addressed the danger and took off his guy who was on a yellow. Ole doesn’t do anything.
Ok we conceded another soft goal. The play is dead, NOW make the change. Nothing.
Now Fred is sent off. You’re screwed.
And the subs he does make becomes a free-for-all.

This loss hurts, because they played very well for the majority of the game. I don’t understand Ole game management here.
And this gives weight to all the naysayers, calling him a PE teacher. I can’t defend him tonight.
Martial... he needs a slap upside the head.
Let himself down badly.
Overall, I’m still confident we can go through, doing it the UTD way. The hard way. Purely cos we played very well.

Was it Maguire who just fell over for their third goal, leaving Neymar about 50 miles of space in all directions for an easy open goal tap in?

Fk me, we need to get rid of that oil tanker.