Tier 4

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Things will look a lot different when all over 65s have had it - that would eliminate 90% of the deaths from
Covid and whilst restrictions would remain, they wouldn’t be anywhere near the levels we’re currently seeing because the hospitals will start being freed up.

To get to that stage we ‘only’ need to vaccinate 12 million people and even one of the vaccine injections will have an impact as they’ve shown.
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Not sure about that Winston.

There’s a lot more evidence emerging about long COVID, and it really doesn’t look good at all. For starters.

I don’t think from a public health, productivity or, ultimately, fiscal perspective it’s wise to let half the country contract COVID when we’re a few short months away from vaccinating the entire population.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 43 minutes ago
“They reckon whilst it will probably immunise yourself from contracting Covid there is a distinct possibility that it still wont prevent you from carrying the virus andinfecting non-immunised people.”

Any sources for this, please?
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WHO, UK public health leadership and Boris at the presser yesterday.

Pretty widely reported.

comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 43 minutes ago
“They reckon whilst it will probably immunise yourself from contracting Covid there is a distinct possibility that it still wont prevent you from carrying the virus andinfecting non-immunised people.”

Any sources for this, please?
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WHO, UK public health leadership and Boris at the presser yesterday.

Pretty widely reported.
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Quotes?

"I don’t think from a public health, productivity or, ultimately, fiscal perspective it’s wise to let half the country contract COVID when we’re a few short months away from vaccinating the entire population."


I didn't say or imply that it is.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 43 minutes ago
“They reckon whilst it will probably immunise yourself from contracting Covid there is a distinct possibility that it still wont prevent you from carrying the virus andinfecting non-immunised people.”

Any sources for this, please?
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WHO, UK public health leadership and Boris at the presser yesterday.

Pretty widely reported.
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Quotes?
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WHO: “At the moment I don't believe we have the evidence of any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on.”

Moderna's chief medical officer, Tal Zaks:

“When we start the deployment of this vaccine we will not have sufficient concrete data to prove that this vaccine reduces transmission.

“I think it's important that we don't change behavior solely on the basis of vaccination."

https://www.google.pt/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/who-says-no-evidence-coronavirus-vaccine-prevent-transmissions-2020-12%3famp

Exactly what I said then.

Not having proof of something is not the same as it being a ‘distinct possibility’, which to me implies a greater likelihood.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Exactly what I said then.

Not having proof of something is not the same as it being a ‘distinct possibility’, which to me implies a greater likelihood.
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Cool.

The answer is for everyone vaccinated to have, a little badge, then you only mingle with badge holders. Because they are both protected from each other.
QED. Quite evidentally daft..

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