Football career

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Carlos Kaiser - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Kaiser_(footballer)
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Lol wtf

What about players like Fred that can’t pass even in the first minute?
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Haha. I honestly don't think his passing is that bad.
Fred has extreme levels of fitness though and if you have that and at least decent footballing ability and decent mental strength then you could easily be pro.

The difficult part is getting that fit is.... Extremely difficult and some people just crumble under the lights (boxing term) when they're offered an opportunity.

A mate of mine back in school trialled for United, this was like in year 2002/3.
He was by far the best player in school. Skill level off the charts, fitness level off the charts.
Top scorer for school team, club team, county team.
In his multiple trials he crumbled, messed up, and united said he wasn't good enough.

Crazy when you consider the shiet players who have played for us over the years.

It's all about luck, taking the opportunity, being in the right place at the right time and making sure your fitness is good enough and that you have a decent enough footballing ability to do the basics, oh and mental strength.

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 35 minutes ago
It is truly incredible how some very average footballers are set up for life as multi millionaires.
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They’re only average for elite professional sportspeople plying their trade in one of the world’s top sporting competitions.

Over 240 million people worldwide play football on a regular basis. There are 1.5 million organised teams across 300,000 registered and regulated clubs, which must account for more than 20 million players (*very* conservatively).

Football has probably made millionaires of a few thousand of those players. 10,000 tops?

If 5,000 who have been set up for life are active (liberally), they would represent 0.002% of active footballers or 0.025% of players playing on an organised basis for registered and regulated clubs.

Realistically, we’re probably talking about a much smaller proportion.

The players you’re talking about as “average” are phenomenal footballers.

Put it this way: I played for a relatively very competent and successful 6-a-side team in a competitive amateur league once against Farsley Celtic Reserves. They weren’t a specialist 5-a-side or 6-a-side team but they absolutely mullered us. We couldn’t get close to them all game and I think they beat us something like 10-0. They won the (amateur) competition without breaking sweat.

These are guys playing for the second string at a semi-pro side which at the time was in the Conf North.

People have no idea how good even terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible looking pros are.
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I couldn't agree more with this. I used to be a civil servant and we used to play inter-regional games and have a tournament every year. I always got picked for the team and thought myself as being half decent. But we had one lad in the team that played for Guiseley FC, so similar level to Farsley. He was just head and shoulders above the rest of the squad. We couldn't get close to him in training and he made you look like a mug every time you tried to tackle him. And he didn't even look like he was trying. To make it even worse, he was as nice a bloke as you will ever meet. So you couldn't even dislike the tricky fecker.
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I remember playing five-a-side with someone who had played lower league football in Belgium. I don't think I ever saw him try to beat a man, but you just couldn't get the ball off him as his body was always in exactly the right place and the ball was always rolling at exactly the speed he wanted it, even if he hadn't touched it; and pretty much every pass he made set someone through on goal. He didn't even seem to be putting that much effort in, just chilling on a Friday after work. It was quite an eye-opener. He was also an absurdly nice guy
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Away from pro footballers, I played with a bloke when I first started playing adult football. It was only a pub team, but me and 4 of my mates all jointed the team at the same time. He was about 34/35, as round as a barrel and had zero fitness. But you could not get the ball off him, was a set piece specialist and he passed the ball like Jan Molby. In fact, he was very similar to Jan Molby full stop.

He was just about ready to hang up his boots when we all joined and suddenly he had an influx of 17/18 year olds that could run all day. He'd saunter around the centre circle pinging the ball about whilst we made the runs in front of him and did the donkey work behind him. I think he played for another 5 seasons with us before finally retiring and I honestly don't think I ever saw him sprint during that time, yet he has often the best player on the pitch.

Carlos has just thrown his name in the hat for the next US Presidential Election.

A superb con artist.

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 5 minutes ago
The only thing that made him stand out was his fitness and ability to run rings around everyone there.
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Other than that, he was a complete waste of space.
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Wish I could be a waste of space playing for Millwall on sick money !

Any that were a 7/10+ on the pitch and in the looks department. Preferably one that could speak Spanish/Portuguese/Swedish/Norwegian.

Robin Sadler

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by rosso - it’s not good enough to be right; you have to be effective (U17054)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 35 minutes ago
It is truly incredible how some very average footballers are set up for life as multi millionaires.
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They’re only average for elite professional sportspeople plying their trade in one of the world’s top sporting competitions.

Over 240 million people worldwide play football on a regular basis. There are 1.5 million organised teams across 300,000 registered and regulated clubs, which must account for more than 20 million players (*very* conservatively).

Football has probably made millionaires of a few thousand of those players. 10,000 tops?

If 5,000 who have been set up for life are active (liberally), they would represent 0.002% of active footballers or 0.025% of players playing on an organised basis for registered and regulated clubs.

Realistically, we’re probably talking about a much smaller proportion.

The players you’re talking about as “average” are phenomenal footballers.

Put it this way: I played for a relatively very competent and successful 6-a-side team in a competitive amateur league once against Farsley Celtic Reserves. They weren’t a specialist 5-a-side or 6-a-side team but they absolutely mullered us. We couldn’t get close to them all game and I think they beat us something like 10-0. They won the (amateur) competition without breaking sweat.

These are guys playing for the second string at a semi-pro side which at the time was in the Conf North.

People have no idea how good even terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible looking pros are.
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I couldn't agree more with this. I used to be a civil servant and we used to play inter-regional games and have a tournament every year. I always got picked for the team and thought myself as being half decent. But we had one lad in the team that played for Guiseley FC, so similar level to Farsley. He was just head and shoulders above the rest of the squad. We couldn't get close to him in training and he made you look like a mug every time you tried to tackle him. And he didn't even look like he was trying. To make it even worse, he was as nice a bloke as you will ever meet. So you couldn't even dislike the tricky fecker.
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I remember playing five-a-side with someone who had played lower league football in Belgium. I don't think I ever saw him try to beat a man, but you just couldn't get the ball off him as his body was always in exactly the right place and the ball was always rolling at exactly the speed he wanted it, even if he hadn't touched it; and pretty much every pass he made set someone through on goal. He didn't even seem to be putting that much effort in, just chilling on a Friday after work. It was quite an eye-opener. He was also an absurdly nice guy
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Away from pro footballers, I played with a bloke when I first started playing adult football. It was only a pub team, but me and 4 of my mates all jointed the team at the same time. He was about 34/35, as round as a barrel and had zero fitness. But you could not get the ball off him, was a set piece specialist and he passed the ball like Jan Molby. In fact, he was very similar to Jan Molby full stop.

He was just about ready to hang up his boots when we all joined and suddenly he had an influx of 17/18 year olds that could run all day. He'd saunter around the centre circle pinging the ball about whilst we made the runs in front of him and did the donkey work behind him. I think he played for another 5 seasons with us before finally retiring and I honestly don't think I ever saw him sprint during that time, yet he has often the best player on the pitch.
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I played 5 aside with a young lad, about 14 years old, who had been in oldham (I think iirc) academy. Never made it as he started smoking etc.

It was a case of passing him the ball and watching him do his thing.

Don't think we lost a match with him in the team.

comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 6 hours, 31 minutes ago
Dunno if anyone has heard of Jed Wallace?
Plays for Millwall - so not Pl standard but decent.
I used to play against him in 5 a side almost every week.
The only thing that made him stand out was his fitness and ability to run rings around everyone there.

The 'average' mans fitness compared to a pro footballer is shockingly bad.

Having extreme levels of fitness will take you far in football. You don't necessarily have to be the best player around.
I can imagine the level of fitness in the PL is superior to that of the championship.

If you have extreme fitness and ability, that's when you reach the top... Playing for the top clubs.
Some players fluke it, as you can see many pro footballers playing for huge clubs and you wonder wtf? (Choupa moteng).
Or players like Bebe, Obertan, etc etc etc. They lucked out for a period of time.

Having fitness is what it's all about.

That poor pass you made? Because you're knackered.
That terrible shot? Because you're knackered
That terrible effort at defending? Because you're knackered.

The ability is there with a lot of footballers, they just can't fking do it cos they're facked.
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I played in the same junior side as Paddy Kenny and always saw him out and about during his career. I can assure you that at no point was that guy any fitter than me. Or my dad. But I get your point

Fitness plays a part but the brain more so!