To all those who believe McClaren needs more time then here are a few facts to why McClaren even with all the off field problems will only lead this club to League 1!
To highlight the problem in one area where McClaren will get us relegated is where everyone has been saying it, our defence was one of the best in the league last year that is fact! It is now joint worse!!!
Nothing has changed we have the same goalkeeper and same back 4 only our manager has changed, yes the off the field stuff has played a part with getting new players in e.t.c but they are the same 5 players we had this season as we had last, they don't just go bad overnight and the only thing that is new into the equation is the new manager! All of you look at the facts don't try and make excuses the facts cannot be any clearer so accept it that the team last year that has finished in the playoffs for last 2 years with more or less the same team is now relegation fodder Fact!
To all those who say well we lost 9 players and only got 6 in. To put that simply on paper we have a beeter side this year then last. Ok we lost Earnie who you have to accept was not as good as he once was for us last year and we lost McKenna (lost his legs) Adebola ( too old) and Garner (never really played for us even though he was gd) e.t.c but they have been replaced by players of by far better quality. I mean at least Miller is trying to show us how good he is and Reid Greening and Hill should be better then their rivals of Anderson, McKenna and Cohen in their relative positions but yet with a better team on paper we are relegation fodder this year and promotion contenders last year!
Add to this as well all the problems we were on about this year with signings e.t.c were all the same as last year in fact we at least signed 5 players and got one on loan this summer last year we were able to gain only one player on loan and even then we were still able to get into the playoffs!
Finally to say "oh well Billy always had a bad start to the season!" then to a point that is true but only to a point. Just look at the majority of games this season and compare them with start of games last season and year before they are 2 completely different teams and I don;t just mean with the players. I mean you knew that we would start to win matches last year as we did everything except that, now you have to cover your eyes whenever you watch forest as we have adopted the tactics of hoofball and just hope their defence makes a mistake so we can grab a goal! Our performances arn't getting any better as well in fact they are getting worse and we are reaching new lows every week, to highlight it in one player you have McGugan who in fact needs a disciplinarian to tell him what to do because we have completely different player to last year who now doesn't seem to be interested in playing and is no way near the standard of the McGugan of last year!
So to all of you who thinks McClaren needs more time, wake up and smell the coffee or in more direct terms the smell that is being produced by the rot forest are producing because nothing has changed from this season or last off the pitch and only on it has one thing changed; the manager!
How to solve the problem get rid of McClaren and get a ****** good manager in someone who knows how forest plays and how the club works and has been there done that and got the t-shirt as they say as there are 2 to choose from and the one who would sort this out the quickest you are going to have to grovel for massively Mr Doughty but if you actually care for this club then you will put your pride aside and admit you were wrong and be the bigger man for once!
Bring back Billy now!!!
That is all
We will be in L1 with McClaren, Fact!
posted on 29/9/11
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posted on 29/9/11
I'm not suggesting the same place, I'm suggesting a similar place.
We're obviously not doing things right at the moment. But it's obvious our defence hasn't been right for a long time.
I'd personally say our strike force is better than last year. Hopefully it's just a case of letting them 'gel', and getting in some midfielders that will help provide us with some ammo for the strikers.
Let's not panic, we're not far from a good team. We've relied on some key loan signings the last few seasons, hopefully we'll get some in that can make a difference this season!
posted on 29/9/11
First let me say that I agree almost 100% that our wretched performances are to be blamed on the manager and his coaching staff.
However I would make a couple of points. The first is that I believe many of the players have been demotivated by letting 9 (or 10) players leave and only bringing in 5 (or 6).
Secondly I dont agree that we now have a better team.
If we look at the team that started against Burnley I think the team would have performed better if the team had been Wilson instead of Hill, McKenna insted of Greening, Tyson instead of Reid, Earnie instead of Derbyshire, and Boyd instead of Miller.
posted on 29/9/11
SRF:
What's wrong with League 1? After all, it's your spiritual home.
posted on 29/9/11
"Plus 4 of them came against a team whos manager ran on to the pitch to have our player sent off and another one was caused through us having no goalkeeper in the goal as was in dying seconds of 2nd leg playoff so a bit different circumstances Hoon!"
No different to four of your players surrounding the referee and bullying him into sending our goalie off is it? Not that it did you any good, you hypocrite.
posted on 29/9/11
Why are sheep botherers still banging on about having their keeper sent off? The facts are simple Fielding fouled Miller thereby denying him a goalscoring opportunity. Of course Forest players appealed for the correct decision to be made, which according to the Laws of the Game is for the offender to be shown a Red Card. However, Derby players trying to intimidate the referee into letting fielding stay on didn't show a lot of respect or do much for the image of the game.
posted on 29/9/11
IMO definately a penalty but the red card was harsh. We had a man on the line who cleared the ball.
posted on 29/9/11
Let Derby have their moment, let's be honest it wont last. Back to Forest. I think we all saw the 5 at the back was never going to work from the Watford game, you can't train for a week at a formation we've never used and expect to win games. I personally think Burnley's league position was really false, as I think on paper they have a great side with 2 quality young strikers, my point is we shouldn't be trialling new systems away at places like Turf Moor on a Tuesday night. Mr McLaren you have a lot of making up to do i'm afraid, we've lost faith in you and the players we worship so much!
posted on 29/9/11
Hypocrit your one to talk, because Savage was always staying away from the referee wasn't he? Yeah right!!!!
Also players who are on the pitch at the time and a manager who is not are 2 different things so think again before you reply next time!
posted on 29/9/11
comment by Super_RobbieFindley' (U6336) posted 43 minutes ago
Hypocrit your one to talk,
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What comes around goes around...... do you remember that goal Miles Addison scored, perfectly good goal, and that season we shoud've done the treble over you? Well your lot and more than likely you would've been giving it large, saying, what a shame you got a goal disallowed Like I say, what goes around comes around