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‘Bad luck with injuries’

Morning all

Firstly, this isn’t a specific dig at Liverpool; they’re just the most recent example of what I’m talking about, and that is the blaming on injuries on bad luck.

Granted, some injuries such as when players fall awkwardly or are on the receiving end of a bad tackle that snaps a ligament are bad luck, but most are a product of the player themselves and their environment.

Firstly, style of play comes into it. A high tempo pressing game will cause more injuries than a slow build up, due to the exertion of more work with the same recovery period. This is where Klopps teams have been undone before. There’s no doubt his style of play is a contributing factor.

Then there are the signings. If you sign a player with a history of injuries, don’t then be surprised when 2 weeks after his debut he’s out for 4 weeks with a hamstring. Also, if your style of play makes player more susceptible to injuries, you’re going to have to have a bigger squad.

Then there is the clubs attitude to injuries. I have personal experience with this, as when I was younger I was operated on by Man Utd’s orthopaedic surgeon. Originally, they thought I had tendinitis in my knee to which I said ‘like Hargreaves?’ The doctor then stated that if United had let him heal, his career would’ve carried on but he was rushed back, which caused more injuries and a downward spiral.

The point I’m making is, yes there is an element of luck with regards to injuries, but most of the variables can be played around and compensated for with forward planning, so I personally never like the use of them as an excuse for poor results.

Thoughts?

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ah, here we go, every team gets injuries, but liverpool's mean more.

as for this earlier claim - The difference in the media has been unbelievable - ie that the media has been less forgiving of pool's injuries this season than of city's last, what utter cobblers.

i honestly cannot remember a club's injury woes being brought up with such relentless regularity, it is mentioned by "the media" every single match (or, at least, every match pool drop points in). we can all remember national mourning over neymar's back, or rooney's metatarsal, but i've never known a club's injury situation to get such billing for an entire f@cking season.
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Liverpool's don't "mean more" but in terms of long term injuries in one position, you'll do well to find the 3 first choice players for one position to have season ending injuries in the first two months of the season followed by the two next choice CB's having injuries at the same time meaning that you're down to 5th, 6th and 7th choices.
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But you're the best club in the multiverse
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Not at the moment. Last season obviously we were. Things change. Remember when United used to be a team that could get past semi finals and won leagues?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha.
I do.
But we had SAF and also our best players got old......
We have a completely new team bar de gea.

Your players are still in their prime. Granted Salah is still carrying you lot but the rest are a mess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is amazing. So what you're saying is, that Sir Alex Ferguson is responsible for the last 8 years because he left your squad full of old players and you've had to rebuild? If only you could spend some money to bring in some new players... that would help wouldn't it?
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Well we had an aging squad that just won the league....

I'm not sure what your point is. Your team is in their prime.
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My point was ever only that things change, as you know due to your team not winning things any more.
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Do you know what is funny though.

Your drop off so far is akin to Moyes taking over and buying Fellaini
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Not really
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know, it's even worse.

You still have your best ever PL manager with a team in their prime
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hardly worse considering we know that come summer we'll have a world class team back
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve had two players missing you clown
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I don't remember the last time we only had two players missing...
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Two first team players missing
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ah, here we go, every team gets injuries, but liverpool's mean more.

as for this earlier claim - The difference in the media has been unbelievable - ie that the media has been less forgiving of pool's injuries this season than of city's last, what utter cobblers.

i honestly cannot remember a club's injury woes being brought up with such relentless regularity, it is mentioned by "the media" every single match (or, at least, every match pool drop points in). we can all remember national mourning over neymar's back, or rooney's metatarsal, but i've never known a club's injury situation to get such billing for an entire f@cking season.
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Liverpool's don't "mean more" but in terms of long term injuries in one position, you'll do well to find the 3 first choice players for one position to have season ending injuries in the first two months of the season followed by the two next choice CB's having injuries at the same time meaning that you're down to 5th, 6th and 7th choices.
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But you're the best club in the multiverse
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not at the moment. Last season obviously we were. Things change. Remember when United used to be a team that could get past semi finals and won leagues?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha.
I do.
But we had SAF and also our best players got old......
We have a completely new team bar de gea.

Your players are still in their prime. Granted Salah is still carrying you lot but the rest are a mess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is amazing. So what you're saying is, that Sir Alex Ferguson is responsible for the last 8 years because he left your squad full of old players and you've had to rebuild? If only you could spend some money to bring in some new players... that would help wouldn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well we had an aging squad that just won the league....

I'm not sure what your point is. Your team is in their prime.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

My point was ever only that things change, as you know due to your team not winning things any more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know what is funny though.

Your drop off so far is akin to Moyes taking over and buying Fellaini
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know, it's even worse.

You still have your best ever PL manager with a team in their prime
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hardly worse considering we know that come summer we'll have a world class team back
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve had two players missing you clown
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't remember the last time we only had two players missing...
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Two first team players missing
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And the rest.

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ah, here we go, every team gets injuries, but liverpool's mean more.

as for this earlier claim - The difference in the media has been unbelievable - ie that the media has been less forgiving of pool's injuries this season than of city's last, what utter cobblers.

i honestly cannot remember a club's injury woes being brought up with such relentless regularity, it is mentioned by "the media" every single match (or, at least, every match pool drop points in). we can all remember national mourning over neymar's back, or rooney's metatarsal, but i've never known a club's injury situation to get such billing for an entire f@cking season.
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Liverpool's don't "mean more" but in terms of long term injuries in one position, you'll do well to find the 3 first choice players for one position to have season ending injuries in the first two months of the season followed by the two next choice CB's having injuries at the same time meaning that you're down to 5th, 6th and 7th choices.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you're the best club in the multiverse
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not at the moment. Last season obviously we were. Things change. Remember when United used to be a team that could get past semi finals and won leagues?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha.
I do.
But we had SAF and also our best players got old......
We have a completely new team bar de gea.

Your players are still in their prime. Granted Salah is still carrying you lot but the rest are a mess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is amazing. So what you're saying is, that Sir Alex Ferguson is responsible for the last 8 years because he left your squad full of old players and you've had to rebuild? If only you could spend some money to bring in some new players... that would help wouldn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well we had an aging squad that just won the league....

I'm not sure what your point is. Your team is in their prime.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

My point was ever only that things change, as you know due to your team not winning things any more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know what is funny though.

Your drop off so far is akin to Moyes taking over and buying Fellaini
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know, it's even worse.

You still have your best ever PL manager with a team in their prime
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hardly worse considering we know that come summer we'll have a world class team back
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve had two players missing you clown
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't remember the last time we only had two players missing...
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Two first team players missing
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Gomez and VVD are first team players. Who else has been missing most of the season?

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ah, here we go, every team gets injuries, but liverpool's mean more.

as for this earlier claim - The difference in the media has been unbelievable - ie that the media has been less forgiving of pool's injuries this season than of city's last, what utter cobblers.

i honestly cannot remember a club's injury woes being brought up with such relentless regularity, it is mentioned by "the media" every single match (or, at least, every match pool drop points in). we can all remember national mourning over neymar's back, or rooney's metatarsal, but i've never known a club's injury situation to get such billing for an entire f@cking season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Liverpool's don't "mean more" but in terms of long term injuries in one position, you'll do well to find the 3 first choice players for one position to have season ending injuries in the first two months of the season followed by the two next choice CB's having injuries at the same time meaning that you're down to 5th, 6th and 7th choices.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you're the best club in the multiverse
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not at the moment. Last season obviously we were. Things change. Remember when United used to be a team that could get past semi finals and won leagues?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha.
I do.
But we had SAF and also our best players got old......
We have a completely new team bar de gea.

Your players are still in their prime. Granted Salah is still carrying you lot but the rest are a mess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is amazing. So what you're saying is, that Sir Alex Ferguson is responsible for the last 8 years because he left your squad full of old players and you've had to rebuild? If only you could spend some money to bring in some new players... that would help wouldn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well we had an aging squad that just won the league....

I'm not sure what your point is. Your team is in their prime.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

My point was ever only that things change, as you know due to your team not winning things any more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know what is funny though.

Your drop off so far is akin to Moyes taking over and buying Fellaini
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know, it's even worse.

You still have your best ever PL manager with a team in their prime
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hardly worse considering we know that come summer we'll have a world class team back
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve had two players missing you clown
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't remember the last time we only had two players missing...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two first team players missing
----------------------------------------------------------------------


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Gomez and VVD are first team players. Who else has been missing most of the season?
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Why have you suddenly changed it to most of the season? You said we've had two players missing. That clearly isn't true. Allison has missed plenty, TAA was injured for 6 weeks. Thiago, Henderson and Fabinho all "first team". .Of course the term "first team" is ridiculous naive in this situation and time as you are only classing the "best 11" as opposed to everything else that allows Matip, Jota etc not to be counted despite their importance.

Either way... 2 players

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

Palace have more out injured than Liverpool and most teams have between 4-6 players out at the same time.

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ah, here we go, every team gets injuries, but liverpool's mean more.

as for this earlier claim - The difference in the media has been unbelievable - ie that the media has been less forgiving of pool's injuries this season than of city's last, what utter cobblers.

i honestly cannot remember a club's injury woes being brought up with such relentless regularity, it is mentioned by "the media" every single match (or, at least, every match pool drop points in). we can all remember national mourning over neymar's back, or rooney's metatarsal, but i've never known a club's injury situation to get such billing for an entire f@cking season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Liverpool's don't "mean more" but in terms of long term injuries in one position, you'll do well to find the 3 first choice players for one position to have season ending injuries in the first two months of the season followed by the two next choice CB's having injuries at the same time meaning that you're down to 5th, 6th and 7th choices.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you're the best club in the multiverse
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not at the moment. Last season obviously we were. Things change. Remember when United used to be a team that could get past semi finals and won leagues?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha.
I do.
But we had SAF and also our best players got old......
We have a completely new team bar de gea.

Your players are still in their prime. Granted Salah is still carrying you lot but the rest are a mess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is amazing. So what you're saying is, that Sir Alex Ferguson is responsible for the last 8 years because he left your squad full of old players and you've had to rebuild? If only you could spend some money to bring in some new players... that would help wouldn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well we had an aging squad that just won the league....

I'm not sure what your point is. Your team is in their prime.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

My point was ever only that things change, as you know due to your team not winning things any more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know what is funny though.

Your drop off so far is akin to Moyes taking over and buying Fellaini
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know, it's even worse.

You still have your best ever PL manager with a team in their prime
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hardly worse considering we know that come summer we'll have a world class team back
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve had two players missing you clown
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't remember the last time we only had two players missing...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two first team players missing
----------------------------------------------------------------------


----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gomez and VVD are first team players. Who else has been missing most of the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why have you suddenly changed it to most of the season? You said we've had two players missing. That clearly isn't true. Allison has missed plenty, TAA was injured for 6 weeks. Thiago, Henderson and Fabinho all "first team". .Of course the term "first team" is ridiculous naive in this situation and time as you are only classing the "best 11" as opposed to everything else that allows Matip, Jota etc not to be counted despite their importance.

Either way... 2 players
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So most of your first team has been fit for most of the seaso bar 2 players. Cheers for clarifying.

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ah, here we go, every team gets injuries, but liverpool's mean more.

as for this earlier claim - The difference in the media has been unbelievable - ie that the media has been less forgiving of pool's injuries this season than of city's last, what utter cobblers.

i honestly cannot remember a club's injury woes being brought up with such relentless regularity, it is mentioned by "the media" every single match (or, at least, every match pool drop points in). we can all remember national mourning over neymar's back, or rooney's metatarsal, but i've never known a club's injury situation to get such billing for an entire f@cking season.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Liverpool's don't "mean more" but in terms of long term injuries in one position, you'll do well to find the 3 first choice players for one position to have season ending injuries in the first two months of the season followed by the two next choice CB's having injuries at the same time meaning that you're down to 5th, 6th and 7th choices.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you're the best club in the multiverse
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not at the moment. Last season obviously we were. Things change. Remember when United used to be a team that could get past semi finals and won leagues?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha.
I do.
But we had SAF and also our best players got old......
We have a completely new team bar de gea.

Your players are still in their prime. Granted Salah is still carrying you lot but the rest are a mess.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is amazing. So what you're saying is, that Sir Alex Ferguson is responsible for the last 8 years because he left your squad full of old players and you've had to rebuild? If only you could spend some money to bring in some new players... that would help wouldn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well we had an aging squad that just won the league....

I'm not sure what your point is. Your team is in their prime.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

My point was ever only that things change, as you know due to your team not winning things any more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know what is funny though.

Your drop off so far is akin to Moyes taking over and buying Fellaini
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not really
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know, it's even worse.

You still have your best ever PL manager with a team in their prime
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's hardly worse considering we know that come summer we'll have a world class team back
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve had two players missing you clown
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't remember the last time we only had two players missing...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two first team players missing
----------------------------------------------------------------------


----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gomez and VVD are first team players. Who else has been missing most of the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why have you suddenly changed it to most of the season? You said we've had two players missing. That clearly isn't true. Allison has missed plenty, TAA was injured for 6 weeks. Thiago, Henderson and Fabinho all "first team". .Of course the term "first team" is ridiculous naive in this situation and time as you are only classing the "best 11" as opposed to everything else that allows Matip, Jota etc not to be counted despite their importance.

Either way... 2 players
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So most of your first team has been fit for most of the seaso bar 2 players. Cheers for clarifying.
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Never said otherwise. .Thanks for clarifying that you only meant players that are out for the season

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I also think the lack of faith (or maybe lack of ability) in the academy would be something I’d be asking huge questions of. One of the oft rolled out lines in this seasons is that Klopp has been ‘forced’ to play midfielders in CB, but I think I am right in saying that there was actually 2 CB on the bench against United and he choose not to play them, and am sure it wasn’t a one off as Phillips is regularly on the bench. Also someone on this thread said about there being 5 CB ahead of the academy players, surely this is a huge question to be asked. if I was a Liverpool fan I’d be wondering 1) Why do we have no CM coming through who is in the top 5 in the club 2) Why is he weakening the midfield when he has defensive options, personally given all the possession Liverpool I’d much rather play my first choice midfield, forwards and full backs and hope that is good enough to protect the CM’s, rather than weaken two areas of the team.
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I've wondered this and maybe they are just such a low standard that it's reasonable for someone like Klopp to think that they would be even worse off.

But you'd think keeping the team as it should be and just inserting a cb that is league 2 level would be better than the seemingly catastrophic effect them not having Henderson and Fabinho in midfield has had.
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My thoughts exactly. I am not Henderson’s biggest fan, I think as an all round player he is just a good prem level player, but in this system, in this team, under this manager he is one of it not thee most important cog, his drive and leadership from the middle is ridiculously important to how this team have played, and for me to have him in where he is at his best driving the team on would be much more important and beneficial to the team.

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I also think the lack of faith (or maybe lack of ability) in the academy would be something I’d be asking huge questions of. One of the oft rolled out lines in this seasons is that Klopp has been ‘forced’ to play midfielders in CB, but I think I am right in saying that there was actually 2 CB on the bench against United and he choose not to play them, and am sure it wasn’t a one off as Phillips is regularly on the bench. Also someone on this thread said about there being 5 CB ahead of the academy players, surely this is a huge question to be asked. if I was a Liverpool fan I’d be wondering 1) Why do we have no CM coming through who is in the top 5 in the club 2) Why is he weakening the midfield when he has defensive options, personally given all the possession Liverpool I’d much rather play my first choice midfield, forwards and full backs and hope that is good enough to protect the CM’s, rather than weaken two areas of the team.
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I've wondered this and maybe they are just such a low standard that it's reasonable for someone like Klopp to think that they would be even worse off.

But you'd think keeping the team as it should be and just inserting a cb that is league 2 level would be better than the seemingly catastrophic effect them not having Henderson and Fabinho in midfield has had.
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My thoughts exactly. I am not Henderson’s biggest fan, I think as an all round player he is just a good prem level player, but in this system, in this team, under this manager he is one of it not thee most important cog, his drive and leadership from the middle is ridiculously important to how this team have played, and for me to have him in where he is at his best driving the team on would be much more important and beneficial to the team.
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Kabak and Fabinho would have been first choice until the end of the season and Henderson would have gone back into midfield for sure.... our win % with him in midfield, even this season is really good so it is a shame that Klopp has felt the need to play him there. I understand it though. You look at our midfield options of Wij, Jones, Milner, Keita, Ox and Thiago... we have far more flexibility and quality. So it is no real surprise that Klopp would rather have Henderson back there.

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comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 25 minutes ago
I also think the lack of faith (or maybe lack of ability) in the academy would be something I’d be asking huge questions of. One of the oft rolled out lines in this seasons is that Klopp has been ‘forced’ to play midfielders in CB, but I think I am right in saying that there was actually 2 CB on the bench against United and he choose not to play them, and am sure it wasn’t a one off as Phillips is regularly on the bench. Also someone on this thread said about there being 5 CB ahead of the academy players, surely this is a huge question to be asked. if I was a Liverpool fan I’d be wondering 1) Why do we have no CM coming through who is in the top 5 in the club 2) Why is he weakening the midfield when he has defensive options, personally given all the possession Liverpool I’d much rather play my first choice midfield, forwards and full backs and hope that is good enough to protect the CM’s, rather than weaken two areas of the team.
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I've wondered this and maybe they are just such a low standard that it's reasonable for someone like Klopp to think that they would be even worse off.

But you'd think keeping the team as it should be and just inserting a cb that is league 2 level would be better than the seemingly catastrophic effect them not having Henderson and Fabinho in midfield has had.
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My thoughts exactly. I am not Henderson’s biggest fan, I think as an all round player he is just a good prem level player, but in this system, in this team, under this manager he is one of it not thee most important cog, his drive and leadership from the middle is ridiculously important to how this team have played, and for me to have him in where he is at his best driving the team on would be much more important and beneficial to the team.
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Kabak and Fabinho would have been first choice until the end of the season and Henderson would have gone back into midfield for sure.... our win % with him in midfield, even this season is really good so it is a shame that Klopp has felt the need to play him there. I understand it though. You look at our midfield options of Wij, Jones, Milner, Keita, Ox and Thiago... we have far more flexibility and quality. So it is no real surprise that Klopp would rather have Henderson back there.
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I see what your saying and don’t disagree initially, but it became clear very quickly that those players you named just weren’t having the impact required without Henderson in there along side them.

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