Since losing 1 nil to Arsenal in November

comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
It's title winning form in a normal season really, just a shame City have had all the momentum and referees on their side.

We will complete the puzzle in the summer and win it next year.
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Except it isn’t title winning form is it? The PPG average required to win the title in the last 10 years has been 2.3, and in 6 of those seasons it has been 2.37 or higher.

So no, it’s not title winning form and hasn’t been for a decade. Far too many draws.
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It is title winning form. City have had so much luck and refereeing help it's a joke.
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So your response to facts is...

“It Is TiTlE wInNiNg FoRm! CiTy & rEfS!”

comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 21 minutes ago
Playing 'entertaining football' at this level is not as straightforward as you think (if you want to win more games than you lose) unless you have players throughout the team, front to back, who are capable of providing it.

You've gotta get this one, mate. Come on.
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I'm not buying this.

There's no reason for:
-not pressing better at times
-slow starts
-players taking too many touches
-lack of movement
-forwards not making enough runs in behind
-players not getting in the box enough
-giving the ball away cheaply

If you think any of these compromises our chances of winning, then maybe football isn't for you.

The Football hasn't always been a joy but with some of the limited players we still have to rely on I don't think it ever will be.
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comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 21 minutes ago
Playing 'entertaining football' at this level is not as straightforward as you think (if you want to win more games than you lose) unless you have players throughout the team, front to back, who are capable of providing it.

You've gotta get this one, mate. Come on.
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I'm not buying this.

There's no reason for:
-not pressing better at times
-slow starts
-players taking too many touches
-lack of movement
-forwards not making enough runs in behind
-players not getting in the box enough
-giving the ball away cheaply

If you think any of these compromises our chances of winning, then maybe football isn't for you.
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Crikey.

maybe its because some of them aren't quite good enough for what you expect from them.

have you ever thought of this?

comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 21 minutes ago
Playing 'entertaining football' at this level is not as straightforward as you think (if you want to win more games than you lose) unless you have players throughout the team, front to back, who are capable of providing it.

You've gotta get this one, mate. Come on.
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I'm not buying this.

There's no reason for:
-not pressing better at times
-slow starts
-players taking too many touches
-lack of movement
-forwards not making enough runs in behind
-players not getting in the box enough
-giving the ball away cheaply

If you think any of these compromises our chances of winning, then maybe football isn't for you.
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Crikey.

maybe its because some of them aren't quite good enough for what you expect from them.

have you ever thought of this?
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Which one of these traits listed requires a lot of talent?

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 21 minutes ago
Playing 'entertaining football' at this level is not as straightforward as you think (if you want to win more games than you lose) unless you have players throughout the team, front to back, who are capable of providing it.

You've gotta get this one, mate. Come on.
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I'm not buying this.

There's no reason for:
-not pressing better at times
-slow starts
-players taking too many touches
-lack of movement
-forwards not making enough runs in behind
-players not getting in the box enough
-giving the ball away cheaply

If you think any of these compromises our chances of winning, then maybe football isn't for you.
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Crikey.

maybe its because some of them aren't quite good enough for what you expect from them.

have you ever thought of this?
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Which one of these traits listed requires a lot of talent?
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?

Sorry, I'm out.

comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 21 minutes ago
Playing 'entertaining football' at this level is not as straightforward as you think (if you want to win more games than you lose) unless you have players throughout the team, front to back, who are capable of providing it.

You've gotta get this one, mate. Come on.
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I'm not buying this.

There's no reason for:
-not pressing better at times
-slow starts
-players taking too many touches
-lack of movement
-forwards not making enough runs in behind
-players not getting in the box enough
-giving the ball away cheaply

If you think any of these compromises our chances of winning, then maybe football isn't for you.
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Crikey.

maybe its because some of them aren't quite good enough for what you expect from them.

have you ever thought of this?
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Which one of these traits listed requires a lot of talent?
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?

Sorry, I'm out.


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Oh no, don't you dare quit now. Finish what you started. Do our slow starts for instance indicate a lack of quality among the players to you?

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 21 minutes ago
Playing 'entertaining football' at this level is not as straightforward as you think (if you want to win more games than you lose) unless you have players throughout the team, front to back, who are capable of providing it.

You've gotta get this one, mate. Come on.
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I'm not buying this.

There's no reason for:
-not pressing better at times
-slow starts
-players taking too many touches
-lack of movement
-forwards not making enough runs in behind
-players not getting in the box enough
-giving the ball away cheaply

If you think any of these compromises our chances of winning, then maybe football isn't for you.
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I think you're grossly underestimating what you're demanding here. You are working with such a fraction of knowledge about how the team and club operate that you can't even break down your argument.

Your list of complaints is pretty much par for the course in football, I don't know what club you think doesn't experience these things?

'giving the ball away cheaply'? When doesn't this happen? Watch 10 games of any team in the world and this happens.

How many teams currently tick all of those boxes and not for 2 months but all the time? Europe's most elite teams have had difficult periods this season, city started very poorly, dortmund have dropped a lot of daft points, Barca have been embarrassed, Bayern have had shock results, they are only 4 points clear of Leipzig and have concedes the same amount of goals as Freiburg, who are currently 9th in the league. Are you telling me their fans haven't been on forums bemoaning defending etc? Juve aren't having it all their own way and PSG are being Lille in their table and lost 2-1 last night to Nantes, who are 18th in Ligue 1.

And these Europe's top, top clubs. Clubs I suspect you would say we need to get closer to. We're second in the league and are the second highest scorers. It hasn't always been scintillating but we've seen some really good results this season, more goals than most fans of clubs have seen.

It's fine to want to strive for better, we should always be doing that but you seem to think we are unique in some way for having poor periods, games and form. We aren't.

What's frustrating is people like you make it seem so easy, so casual. You'll criticise player after player, manager after manager, everyone is incompetent but I bet you can't break down how a typical training session looks for us,or what gets said at half time, what is going on with the players from a personal perspective, how covid has impacted their mental health and well being.

For someone who has never run a football club, you should be mindful of being so complacent about the task at hand. If you look around at other club forums, fan channels, phone ins etc, you'll see most fans slating something or other and most of it comes from ignorance about how you run a club and manage a team coupled with unrealistic expectations.

These are people, not robots. I manage people and have had several people breakdown over the last 6 months and they don't have every aspect of their work put in slow motion, shared all Iver twitter and have to suffer relentless criticism, abuse, racial hatred and shoulder the pressure of millions of expectant people, whilst trying to navigate a currently very difficult situation.

Rather than constantly moaning about what we aren't doing maybe flip it and take a look at what we are doing and by all means discuss, debate and criticise but try and drop the Billy big balls arrogance that you have much of a clue what you're talking about because realistically, none of us do. Every single one of your points could be levelled at us at multiple times whilst Sir Alex was manager.

Maybe you were one of those people around 03 saying he needed to go and was a dinosaur?

Ok Foxy, let's break down your arguments:

Ofcourse all teams experience problems, but this has become the norm for us. I'm literally watching teams below us in the table doing those things I listed better.

We don't put in complete performances. We don't control games. After all that money spent, we still don't excel at a single thing.

You're clearly one of those people that likes to defend the status quo, and come up with any excuse you can. Ofcourse there are problems behind the scenes, there always are. But that's no excuse for failing at the basics. If one can't do the job, there's always someone else that can.

Every club has suffered from Covid, not just us. Our problems go back to before this anyway. Speaking of Covid, some people like to make excuses for the government's handling it despite ridiculous gaffes being made. It wouldn't surprise me if you're one of them.

Under Fergie we didn't have these issues game after game with no improvement. We played some great football at times, and ofcourse won things. It's really not comparable.

60% win ratio is an excellent return.

Think SAF had a 55% record overall, so Ole’s on track, using this small sample.

That’s from memory and can’t remember the source.