I read that excess mortality in the UK for last year was just 7% above the level that would normally be expected.
As the death rate per annum in the UK for any given year is around 600,000, this means that excess deaths are around 42,000.
As COVID related deaths are reported to be about 120,000, does this mean that two thirds of these deaths would have happened this year anyway? The cause of death would have just been given as a different reason? Cancer, heart failure, etc etc
Could someone explain these figures to me?
It seems to me that excess deaths of 40,000 are just the same as the last bad flu year in 2015, when excess mortality was 44,000 for the year.
Has the last 12 months been one long scamdemic?
Enquiring minds want to know!
Excess Mortality
posted on 20/3/21
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 4 minutes ago
the stats in the op seem 2b incorrect, about half of actual fgures.
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They are. I thought it was because he had taken only stats for England and Wales, as people often do to try to downplay UK figures. But no, he's just completely fabricated these figures, it seems
posted on 20/3/21
i just did a simple google search. is not difficult
posted on 20/3/21
There are also the very basic arguments that:
1. Without sensible restrictions in place to protect public health, we’d have seen hospitals at the point at which they wouldn’t have been able to provide oxygen for patients with even moderate symptoms (which actually happened in certain places here in Portugal), let alone ICU treatment for close to all of those who needed it. Which would have resulted in a much higher death toll.
2. The more people carrying the virus, the heavier the ‘global viral load’, the more frequent and more rapid and less predictable the mutations. Again, highly undesirable when you’re trying to produce vaccines against a brand new and not incredibly well understood virus.
posted on 20/3/21
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posted on 21/3/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 41 minutes ago
i just did a simple google search. is not difficult
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It is if you’re blind, deaf, have no limbs, no teeth, no internet access, no computer and rely on a smelly hairy flabby Turkish bloke to change your pants and feed you brown gruel all day. Not everyone lives in a gilded palace you stuck up prik.
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oooh look!
Oscar Wilde is in the house
posted on 21/3/21
I genuinely think this OP and the replies sum up the situation perfectly. The reality is that COVID-19 may well be with us for years. So treat it like the flu. Vaccinate yearly, open up the economy and people's livelihoods.
#survivalofthefittest
posted on 21/3/21
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56435100
Fewer people, fewer deaths.
posted on 22/3/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56435100
Fewer people, fewer deaths.
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Yes, because loads of "younger working age foreign born people in their 20's" were likely to die from COVID weren't they?
Boris "Thicko" Gibson strikes again!!
posted on 30/3/21
https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/Covid-1984-Masked-Sheep-by-PlantDemia/63715728.88ZX2.XYZ
posted on 30/3/21
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