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Solidarity to Son

I saw in the news today that Son was racially abused following yesterday's VAR incident. It's unacceptable. Yesterday I saw Caucasian players on both teams go down to 'emphasise' claims to have been fouled. I'm sure some of them were called out on social media. I'm pretty sure that none of them were berated in racialised and dehumanising terms. As we know, when idiots throw about racist terms, it demeans not just the immediate, individual target of the abuse, but (perhaps more damagingly) everyone who looks the same way - because if you reduce one Asian or black person to the 'type', then you define and reduce every individual in the same way. And this relatively toothless discourse on social media feeds into a wider discourse in which some people harbour subconscious enmity towards particular groups, and a smaller number of sociopaths are emboldened to act on their conscious hatred.

So we need to talk about it, and to respond with aggression whenever we see it.

comment by TBag. (U11806)

posted on 12/4/21

So if you’re American, we’re good. If you’re not, I feel sorry for you for living in an inferior country.
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'I'm not racist'

Goes on to say he's on bad terms with anyone who isn't from his country

I really find it hard to believe he's a genuine poster cos he's such a parody.

Anyway to the topic at hand there's not really much more to add, other than to add another voice to stand with Son. I can't imagine what it's like to go through something like this & also for young Asians growing up in this country who look up to Son and see him being treated like this. I don't understand how some people can be so driven by feelings of hatred, it just seems like a pathetic and exhausting existence to me.

posted on 12/4/21

The term is xenophobic

Come on, keep up with the wokeism y'all

comment by TBag. (U11806)

posted on 12/4/21

Still in the spirit of discriminating against people for simply where they were born

posted on 12/4/21

comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 minutes ago
" If you’re not an American citizen, you’re worth spit."

Am I reading this correctly? Are you saying that US citizens are better people than others?
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I became about 17% better once I exchanged my Brit passport for a yank one
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And 100% a bigger .

posted on 12/4/21

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
comment by Garner be a star (U13920)
posted 33 minutes ago
reading my comment a question popped in my mind.
Is it healthy to portray people like Son as a "victim" of racial abuse or would it be more conducive to portray them in a more positive light (i.e conquerors that they are)
as a kid growing up I know I would hate to see my idol (my dad) reduced to the status of a victim. Just a question?
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That's a good question. I don't know the answer but my instinct is that we should focus on the unacceptability of that kind of speech rather than on framing the target as a victim. Whether it's Rashford or Son or Salah, he's one of us, we stand together, when it's a case of racial abuse. The focus should shift to how pathetic and isolated the abuser is.
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I like your answer
Only thing I will add is the abusers are often emboldened by the anonymity of the internet. Maybe this is why the problem persists.

posted on 12/4/21

I believe the majority are good people and i hope stand by the abused if they ever witness it. Its never going to stop it happening because the world will always have s in it that feel a need to put others down because apparently their life is so bad they have nothing but hate in it idk?

Obviously a big part of the reason race is always brought up is because how effective using race is at getting what these s want which is a reaction.

I don't think its got worse i think its just being highlighted more which is a good thing, people are showing that solidarity standing by the abused which must be a big comfort for the victim, but at the same time its the exact reaction/attention the s are wanting.

At some point more people will realise its never going to stop, theres always going to be s in the world unfortunately. They'll see whilst highlighting it and confronting it they give comfort and support to the victims but at the same time fuel the s.

posted on 12/4/21

Whatever Son did on the pitch yesterday he shouldn't be racially abused for it. That's uncalled for.

I'd like to think that we're better than we were in the UK in terms of race but, to be fair, the vast majority of people I know and work with are white so I could be living in a kind of bubble too.

We were discussing at work today how casually we'd use offensive words when we were growing up in the 80s without really knowing what they meant. Things like pan$y, p**f, gay etc could be heard quite regularly. We even had a siop Paci in my home town (which was run by an Indian!). I'm glad that's not heard as often now as minorities have found their voice but we mustn't stop until everyone feels an equal part of society.

comment by TBag. (U11806)

posted on 12/4/21

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
Whatever Son did on the pitch yesterday he shouldn't be racially abused for it. That's uncalled for.

I'd like to think that we're better than we were in the UK in terms of race but, to be fair, the vast majority of people I know and work with are white so I could be living in a kind of bubble too.

We were discussing at work today how casually we'd use offensive words when we were growing up in the 80s without really knowing what they meant. Things like pan$y, p**f, gay etc could be heard quite regularly. We even had a siop Paci in my home town (which was run by an Indian!). I'm glad that's not heard as often now as minorities have found their voice but we mustn't stop until everyone feels an equal part of society.
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Yeah when I was at school stuff like gay, batty, etc were the go to insults. I guess as a kid you don't know any better but it comes from somewhere.

posted on 12/4/21

comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 minutes ago
" If you’re not an American citizen, you’re worth spit."

Am I reading this correctly? Are you saying that US citizens are better people than others?
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I became about 17% better once I exchanged my Brit passport for a yank one
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I assume you are like me, a dual national, and hold both passports?

If you want to go to Brazil, after Bolsonaro (!!), you'll find a Brit one gets you in no trouble. A US one you need all manner of paperwork.

posted on 13/4/21

These people have ip addresses. They should be traced and confronted. Any of the filth they post on Social Media, they would not say face to face

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