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THE GEORGE FLOYD CASE

Ex-Officer Derek Chauvin is charged with second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

Personally can’t see him being convicted of second degree murder, but instead will be found guilty of the other 2 charges

They will be riots and violence, I’m sure, but the prosecution have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he committed a crime that caused death - the wording is very important, because on the face of it, to the average person, we’d all probably say that he committed a crime.

That’s because in hindsight, his actions resulted in someone dying, but at the time, he believed he was just carrying out his work details - excessively, yes, but was just doing his job

That’s where the prosecution will come unstuck - because they will have to somehow prove that in the heat of the moment, the officer in question was committing a crime

It’s very unclear, and once again...it’s not what’s right or wrong, it’s what can be proved in law that counts

Personally I think he’ll be found not guilty of second degree murder, but found guilty on the other two counts

That of course will just open the gates to more rioting, violence and accusations of racism - prepare yourselves

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
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It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
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It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.
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I think a fair few more across the globe (including Mandela himself) referred to him in his earlier days as a ‘terrorist’

Just interested to know what ‘StringerBell’ thought of him?

Should he have ‘rotted in jail’

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

his wife loved necklacing people

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 3 minutes ago
his wife loved necklacing people
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Wee Stompy never stood a chance.

Winnie was some pup.

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
his wife loved necklacing people
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Just read this piece on him:


‘It is true Mandela rose to greatness. Freed after 27 years in a South African jail, the anti-apartheid fighter emerged not bent on vengeance but healing. He negotiated a peaceful end to apartheid, and as the first president of democratic South Africa, preached - and practised - reconciliation. In this he was great. A healer. An inspiration.

For many whites abroad, he seems even Christ-like - someone who'd suffered for the sins of white guilt, and absolved those who believed in him of the sin of racism.

But Mandela was no Christ nor even Gandhi nor Martin Luther King. He was for decades a man of violence. In 1961, he broke with African National Congress colleagues who preached non-violence, creating a terrorist wing.
He later pleaded guilty in court to acts of public violence, and behind bars sanctioned more, including the 1983 Church St car bomb that killed 19 people.

Mandela even suggested cutting off the noses of blacks deemed collaborators. His then wife Winnie advocated "necklacing" instead - this involved binding the hands of a person and placing a car tyre around their neck - before setting it on fire‘

One wonders in years to come whether Officer Derek Chauvin will have done anything to warrant any kind of redemption, forgiveness, positive legacy

Or will the events of the past year be the destruction of his life

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ (U22182)
posted 16 minutes ago
The reason I used Mandela was because he was convicted of terrorism and murder back in the day - trust that helps
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It's true, both Maggie and May labelled him a terrorist.
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Legally and technically, true.

How is SA doing now?

That apartheid was well bad.

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Cinciwolf---A top 20 brand in world football (U11551)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Freedom FC (Diamond Hands) (U7214)
posted 59 minutes ago
I was originally surprised and then not surprised about the verdict. I was convinced that Chauvin was going to get a guilty verdict somewhere. I was surprised that he got a unanimous guilty verdicts on all charges.

Two things I don't get.
2nd degree murder... what felony act was Chauvin committing? Assault?

3rd degree murder... how is this a depraved heart murder? An example of a depraved heart murder is throwing a brick off the bridge and killing someone in doing so. It has to be near random kill for this to apply


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It was political to an extent because yeah he shouldn't be found guilty on all those charges but no biggy
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The prosecution were able to prove all three charges beyond reasonable doubt, (which the jury upheld). So unclear why anyone would claim he shouldn't have been found guilty of them.

As with any case of this nature, multiple charges can be brought to increase chances of a conviction.

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 31 minutes ago
Mandela went to prison for treason against the apartheid state.
Derek Chauvinism is in jail for murder.
Any fool who would see they're crimes having anything in common is exactly that. A FOOL. IMO.
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Evening.

Good to see the verdict last night as the cop was a wrong un.

Have you seen the Floyd rap sheet?

Did not deserve that death...or the praise about his Wonderful Life, imo.

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

The point being people can turn their lives around...and even the most deplorable and appalling situation can be turned into something positive with the right attitude, application and approach

It cannot be done overnight....and it wilt ale a lot of time and healing....but it can be done

It will be interesting to see how that pans out for Derek Chauvin - he will still has some major decisions to make

There’s hope for ALL people

posted 2 weeks, 6 days ago

But at this moment in time...it does look very bleak for Derek Chauvin

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