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So many idiots

on this site.

They see 'breakaway league' and start crying about their team leaving the PL. Get a fuсking grip, nobody is leaving anything.

As I understand the proposed ESL announcements, the ESL has fuсk all to do with the PL. It is a proposed replacement for the CL to allow the participants a bigger slice of the financial pie and guaranteed entry EVERY season, nothing more, nothing less.

There are 15 proposed founders/permanent members (3 currently unknown) with 5 extra teams entering through domestic league positions. I don't know which leagues these extra 5 teams will come from.

The 20 teams will be placed into 2 leagues of 10 to play each other home & away. The top 3 from each league plus 2 winners from the 4th/5th placed team playoffs going on to follow the CL format of 2 legged ties (QF & SF) and 1 leg FINAL.

Also, the FA or PL have no reason to sanction the participating teams whatsoever.

posted on 19/4/21

we've all seen the repeated complaints against uefa and fifa on here, every year.
about incompetence.
about corruption.
about stupid changes to the rules.
about cronyism and ignoring the fans, especially over ticket allocations to finals, and the selection of the stadium.
about how uefa/fifa take so much of the money generated for themselves, despite doing very little except rely on the revenue generating capacity of the teams involved.

maybe this super league is an opportunity.
first and foremost it appears to be about reducing the governing bodies percentage of the money generated, allowing the clubs that are actually creating that value to keep more for themselves. if they stick to the promise of uncapped solidarity payments to the leagues then it is possible all clubs, at all levels, will benefit.

and perhaps a competition outside of uefa or fifa's remit isnt a bad idea. a competition where the clubs involved can actually set the laws and rules, freed from the shackles of the uefa/fifa clowns and their ref's incompetence, and self-protecting rules. maybe we'll end up with a working VAR system, and understandable, and more importantly, easily applicable offside rules...


the big problem i can see with it, and which is, fairly, being levelled at the clubs involved, is that it's to protect and guarantee their continued, unlosable, participation in the competition.
as the ones taking all the risk and flak for trying to start the super league, i can see their reasoning for wanting to ensure their continuing benefit. but i can't condone not being able to lose their place.
maybe a 10 - 15 year period from inception where they can't be relegated from it, should be more than enough to ensure they get the return required to compensate for the risk and anger. if there's a fixed point from which any founding member can be relegated that should help avoid arguments that it's only about protecting their own places in the competition.

posted on 19/4/21

in case people have not noticed unfairness before

compare money 1st in championship gets excluding parachutes to 20th in prem.

Now go to spain and compare the gap between money getten by barca and 6th placed real sociedad 100mil+ . check last year where Lfc got 19mil more than spurs who finished 6th.

there's a lot of unfairness in the game today. people bleating about unfairness need to start focusing on self interest

posted on 19/4/21

there's a lot of unfairness in the game today. people bleating about unfairness need to start focusing on self interest

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So, if the league table today was the final league table, Arsenal in 9th would qualify for the super league, before Leicester would sitting 3rd.

Yes, the way modern football is structured is unfairly, but this takes it to a new whole level.

It's not bleating, it's repugnant and basically it will drastically effect the our domestic game in a negative way.

comment by Tway (U1162)

posted on 19/4/21

I think most of the teams involved in the ESL would be delighted to see top level mouth watering ties on a regular basis. its the natural step forwards. Talk about commercialism and financial immorality is irrelevant. this is the natural progression for the sport.
When football turned professional there was much the same type of accusations levelled at the proposed upgrade at that time.
I can understand the frustration from fans of clubs whose teams have not been 'invited ' in. But sooner or later this was always on the cards.
Football is entertainment, and The ESL will provide it on the highest level. Want it or not it is and will be the future.

posted on 19/4/21

It’s not a natural step at all though is it. It’s the richest clubs in the world regardless of success on the pitch deciding a quick and easy step to recover funds and make more money by creating a random new competition in which they are guaranteed entry to every year regardless of performance. What is natural about that?

posted on 19/4/21

No risk for the founding clubs as there is no relegation.

I'm sure it will be gripping, with the plethora of meaningless exhibition games

comment by Tway (U1162)

posted on 19/4/21

comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 42 seconds ago
It’s not a natural step at all though is it. It’s the richest clubs in the world regardless of success on the pitch deciding a quick and easy step to recover funds and make more money by creating a random new competition in which they are guaranteed entry to every year regardless of performance. What is natural about that?
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Nature has given us natural selection, the survival of the fittest, so to me its the most natural thing to follow the way of nature.
besides..its long overdue, the entertainment quality will be so much improved, it was always going to happen.

comment by Tway (U1162)

posted on 19/4/21

Plus...a few years down the road as travel logistics improve along with increase of interest in the sport, I can see this progressing to The Intercontinental League, (ICSL) with contributions from S. America, Africa, and Asia. As those countries almost certainly will invest more funds into the sport on a global basis.

comment by Tway (U1162)

posted on 19/4/21

comment by Pâî§Lë¥'&scaron... (U1541)
posted 19 minutes ago
No risk for the founding clubs as there is no relegation.

I'm sure it will be gripping, with the plethora of meaningless exhibition games
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Super trophies that will be at the top of every owners wish list.Being "best of the best" will always hold the greatest allure. Previously it was done on a provincial basis, now we will have it continental...and after some years down thread...globally.

posted on 19/4/21

The way I read this was the league would start and no one could be relegated. But once it reaches its full occupancy they bottom X clubs would get relegated.

I would love to see the tip clubs in Europe play each other multiple times in a season. But you need to have qualification to be in it and this should be all 20 places each year.

I like the format of this as the group stages of the CL are crap, but then the new Swiss model that is coming could work well.

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