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Things a Spurs fan can look forward to

1. The outside, thin hope we appoint a manager who can move us forward, and has a reasonable knowledge of how to win games consistently over a 38 game season. Who won't put up with spinless performances like today.
2. A fire sale of as many dross players as possible. In particularly see the back of Dier, Winks, Sissoko, Aurier finally. This list could easily include about 9/10 others.
3. Finish 8th and have a season with no Thursday night stuff, enabling us to focus just on the league. Let's be honest CL for us at the moment would be pointless anyway. Plus hurt Levy in the only way he recognises. His pocket.
4. New players who actually have some fight, energy and passion.
5. Some of our young fringe players to get a run. For example Skipp, Parrott, Sessegnon. God knows they can't be any worse than what we have at the moment.

posted on 8/5/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 ho... (U20567)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 54 minutes ago
I genuinely don’t understand Spurs. Levy puts financial restraints on the first team in terms of spending (and wages), displaying a keen intent to make sure the books are balanced, yet takes out a long term finance deal to build a fantastic stadium, while effectively creating a squad that aren’t good enough to play in it.

He then hires very good managers who have either a proven track record, or indeed do very well and prove themselves at Spurs, but then at the first sign of trouble Levy sacks them off. This was especially the case in regards to Poch.

Spurs are a big club, yet they have owners who only act big time off the field. When it comes to on the field - THE primary and most important aspect of being a football club, the owners come across as incredibly inept.

That it has been 60 years since Spurs won the last of their two league titles is intriguing. Spurs are not a proven league winning team. They are a cup team - where they have enjoyed much more success.

To be honest, I don’t even think the owners know what Spurs are about or indeed capable of. At best a top four club - at best. Either the owners have ideas above their station (which, given the reasons why they have sacked managers, seems probable), or they are not ambitious enough (which makes a mockery of the reasons why they have sacked managers).
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It's called running a club when you dont have a billionaire sugar daddy.

Levy runs a tight ship at Spurs and he has done amazingly to get us from mediocre to the fringes of the elite teams.

His biggest flaw in my opinion is that he is risk adverse. He is not really willing to speculate to accumulate. The bigs purchases we have made over time had normally been funded buy big sales. Since the stadium opened we have spent £230m which is massive for us, but you can see why he doesnt wish to take too many chances because you spend £50m on Ndombele and dont get much return, you spend £35m on Lo Celso and he underwhelms. That's £80-90m that has not moved us on much.

The stadium was essential. WHL was home but it was old. New WHL has added debt but massively increased revenue.

The classic Spurs thing is though that our stadium has been in the pipeline for years, when it finally comes to pass it comes at a time when we had a great manager and excellent young, hungry group of players, but it put the handbrake on our spending and all the momentum we gained under Poch was lost.

As a City fan you will not understand the constraints of operating to a budget. In your growth phase you had a season where you made £200m losses and spent more on wages than your entire revenue. Levy will never sanction that and nor would most CEOs.
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Yeh easy for fans that are State sponsored to go on about spending money. Spurs have to live within their means. The new stadium was an absolute must if Spurs were to grow, so I never quite get the nonsense about they should have spent the money on players instead of the new stadium.

Amusing how supporters of a club that were playing in the 3rd tier of English football should be lecturing Spurs about not getting it right.
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Your response is even more predicable. Instead of turning this into a City v Spurs debate, why not focus on Spurs which is what the thread is about?

It doesn’t matter one bit that I’m a City fan. And your comment about City spending one season in the clubs history in the third tier is completely irrelevant.

You surprise me Sandy. Your inability to engage in decent discussion, for a man of your mature years, is ridiculous.

posted on 8/5/21

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 54 minutes ago
I genuinely don’t understand Spurs. Levy puts financial restraints on the first team in terms of spending (and wages), displaying a keen intent to make sure the books are balanced, yet takes out a long term finance deal to build a fantastic stadium, while effectively creating a squad that aren’t good enough to play in it.

He then hires very good managers who have either a proven track record, or indeed do very well and prove themselves at Spurs, but then at the first sign of trouble Levy sacks them off. This was especially the case in regards to Poch.

Spurs are a big club, yet they have owners who only act big time off the field. When it comes to on the field - THE primary and most important aspect of being a football club, the owners come across as incredibly inept.

That it has been 60 years since Spurs won the last of their two league titles is intriguing. Spurs are not a proven league winning team. They are a cup team - where they have enjoyed much more success.

To be honest, I don’t even think the owners know what Spurs are about or indeed capable of. At best a top four club - at best. Either the owners have ideas above their station (which, given the reasons why they have sacked managers, seems probable), or they are not ambitious enough (which makes a mockery of the reasons why they have sacked managers).
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It's called running a club when you dont have a billionaire sugar daddy.

Levy runs a tight ship at Spurs and he has done amazingly to get us from mediocre to the fringes of the elite teams.

His biggest flaw in my opinion is that he is risk adverse. He is not really willing to speculate to accumulate. The bigs purchases we have made over time had normally been funded buy big sales. Since the stadium opened we have spent £230m which is massive for us, but you can see why he doesnt wish to take too many chances because you spend £50m on Ndombele and dont get much return, you spend £35m on Lo Celso and he underwhelms. That's £80-90m that has not moved us on much.

The stadium was essential. WHL was home but it was old. New WHL has added debt but massively increased revenue.

The classic Spurs thing is though that our stadium has been in the pipeline for years, when it finally comes to pass it comes at a time when we had a great manager and excellent young, hungry group of players, but it put the handbrake on our spending and all the momentum we gained under Poch was lost.

As a City fan you will not understand the constraints of operating to a budget. In your growth phase you had a season where you made £200m losses and spent more on wages than your entire revenue. Levy will never sanction that and nor would most CEOs.
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My comment has nothing to do with City. It’s not surprising however that you’ve chosen to cite City in your response. Actually it’s just predictable.

Spurs have a sugar daddy. The owners are worth billions. They do operate a different model to City, and they have chosen to do that. What I don’t get is what is it that the owners expect/want, given the model they have chosen to operate.

If they want to be relatively frugal, then fair play. Don’t sack a manager who is only able to produce results based on such a model. If they don’t want to be speculative, then fair play, but again don’t sack a manager who is working under such restraints.

Spurs are right up there, but can they really expect to surpass those above them given the constraints imposed? And if they can’t, then why are managers - who are reaching the ceiling of the “ambition” imposed on them by the owners - being sacked for not achieving more.

This is what I don’t understand. At least in terms of performances on the pitch, Spurs are where they should be, given the way they operate. You can’t surpass United, Liverpool, and yes, the “sugar daddy clubs of City and Chelsea. Yet despite this they reached a CL final. The next season they sacked the manager who guided them to that.

The potential is there for Spurs. The stadium - which I’m not critical of (I agree it was needed) - is absolutely fantastic. But it is so good that it warrants a better team playing there. It’s no good having a great stadium at the expense of a great side. Which is more important? Spending (or borrowing) a billion for a great stadium at the expense of a team, or building a great team at the expense of a stadium?

That your owners can find the money to produce a great stadium, but aren’t prepared to find the money to produce a great team? And when the manager doesn’t get great results with a team that isn’t great, sack him.

My confusion with Spurs, just to be clear, is that the priority of the owners seems to lie off the field as opposed to on it. They seem to be owners who are incredibly wealthy yet want to run a huge club on a relative shoestring.
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Yep 100%. They are happy to pay for a fancy stadium to produce more income, yet harbour no ambition on the field. If they showed any ambition like City, Chelsea, Liverpool etc do, Spurs would be right up there winning trophies. The fact is our net spend is truly embarrassing and Spurs fans celebrate it like it’s some sort of achievement. #levyout #enicout

posted on 8/5/21

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 hours (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 11 minutes ago
I don’t care anymore, just read Dias had agreed terms with us but Levy didn’t want to pay.

So Levy cost us getting Bruno and Dias, I give up.

Don’t care anymore, if we don’t get top signings to sort that defence out I’m not watching another season of us being hopeless.
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I shall continue to go. Being a supporter you have to take the rough with the smooth. But not expecting much over the next four or five years
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What smooth Sandy ? Apart from a few twilight years under Pochettino where we still won f** all, what snoopy do we get ? It’s constant false dawns and disappointments. Every single f*** season.

As for the OP. Please for the love of god get rid of the useless f^* that are —-

Sanchez
Dier
Davies
Aurier
Winks
Sissoko
Bergwijn
Doherty


Would honestly rid of pretty much all our defence it’s horrific.
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Don, i was more referring to supporters in general. The current Spurs squad of the last half a dozen years has been hugely disappointing. So many false dawns. This team is seriously not good enough, and most of it needs upgrading. So many players just not progressed.

posted on 8/5/21

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 ho... (U20567)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 54 minutes ago
I genuinely don’t understand Spurs. Levy puts financial restraints on the first team in terms of spending (and wages), displaying a keen intent to make sure the books are balanced, yet takes out a long term finance deal to build a fantastic stadium, while effectively creating a squad that aren’t good enough to play in it.

He then hires very good managers who have either a proven track record, or indeed do very well and prove themselves at Spurs, but then at the first sign of trouble Levy sacks them off. This was especially the case in regards to Poch.

Spurs are a big club, yet they have owners who only act big time off the field. When it comes to on the field - THE primary and most important aspect of being a football club, the owners come across as incredibly inept.

That it has been 60 years since Spurs won the last of their two league titles is intriguing. Spurs are not a proven league winning team. They are a cup team - where they have enjoyed much more success.

To be honest, I don’t even think the owners know what Spurs are about or indeed capable of. At best a top four club - at best. Either the owners have ideas above their station (which, given the reasons why they have sacked managers, seems probable), or they are not ambitious enough (which makes a mockery of the reasons why they have sacked managers).
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's called running a club when you dont have a billionaire sugar daddy.

Levy runs a tight ship at Spurs and he has done amazingly to get us from mediocre to the fringes of the elite teams.

His biggest flaw in my opinion is that he is risk adverse. He is not really willing to speculate to accumulate. The bigs purchases we have made over time had normally been funded buy big sales. Since the stadium opened we have spent £230m which is massive for us, but you can see why he doesnt wish to take too many chances because you spend £50m on Ndombele and dont get much return, you spend £35m on Lo Celso and he underwhelms. That's £80-90m that has not moved us on much.

The stadium was essential. WHL was home but it was old. New WHL has added debt but massively increased revenue.

The classic Spurs thing is though that our stadium has been in the pipeline for years, when it finally comes to pass it comes at a time when we had a great manager and excellent young, hungry group of players, but it put the handbrake on our spending and all the momentum we gained under Poch was lost.

As a City fan you will not understand the constraints of operating to a budget. In your growth phase you had a season where you made £200m losses and spent more on wages than your entire revenue. Levy will never sanction that and nor would most CEOs.
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Yeh easy for fans that are State sponsored to go on about spending money. Spurs have to live within their means. The new stadium was an absolute must if Spurs were to grow, so I never quite get the nonsense about they should have spent the money on players instead of the new stadium.

Amusing how supporters of a club that were playing in the 3rd tier of English football should be lecturing Spurs about not getting it right.
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Your response is even more predicable. Instead of turning this into a City v Spurs debate, why not focus on Spurs which is what the thread is about?

It doesn’t matter one bit that I’m a City fan. And your comment about City spending one season in the clubs history in the third tier is completely irrelevant.

You surprise me Sandy. Your inability to engage in decent discussion, for a man of your mature years, is ridiculous.
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Of course it is relevant. Just shows you City have brought their way to the top. You can deny it all you like, but you know without the bottomless pit of money, City would not be where they are now.

posted on 8/5/21

Good grief

Sandy, let me try again...

This thread is not about City.

My comment is not about City.

This thread is about Spurs.

My comment is about Spurs.

Do you understand?

posted on 9/5/21

comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 5 hours, 5 minutes ago
I don’t care anymore, just read Dias had agreed terms with us but Levy didn’t want to pay.

So Levy cost us getting Bruno and Dias, I give up.

Don’t care anymore, if we don’t get top signings to sort that defence out I’m not watching another season of us being hopeless.
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There is a long list of top players that we could have signed but Levy was not prepared to pay for, going back years, Eto, Morientes, Moutinho, Mane, Dybala, Grealish, Fernandes, Dias, Hazard etc etc etc.

Owners like this are the reason we are so shiete and never win anything. I crave the day we are taken over by somebody with ambition to win silverware instead of profit. #ENIC OUT

posted on 9/5/21

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 12 hours, 50 minutes ago
I genuinely don’t understand Spurs. Levy puts financial restraints on the first team in terms of spending (and wages), displaying a keen intent to make sure the books are balanced, yet takes out a long term finance deal to build a fantastic stadium, while effectively creating a squad that aren’t good enough to play in it.

He then hires very good managers who have either a proven track record, or indeed do very well and prove themselves at Spurs, but then at the first sign of trouble Levy sacks them off. This was especially the case in regards to Poch.

Spurs are a big club, yet they have owners who only act big time off the field. When it comes to on the field - THE primary and most important aspect of being a football club, the owners come across as incredibly inept.

That it has been 60 years since Spurs won the last of their two league titles is intriguing. Spurs are not a proven league winning team. They are a cup team - where they have enjoyed much more success.

To be honest, I don’t even think the owners know what Spurs are about or indeed capable of. At best a top four club - at best. Either the owners have ideas above their station (which, given the reasons why they have sacked managers, seems probable), or they are not ambitious enough (which makes a mockery of the reasons why they have sacked managers).
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Quite possibly the best post I have seen on our board this season. I haven’t even read the whole article yet, but no doubt you’ll be harangued as a ‘money bags’ City fan who shouldn’t have an opinion....

posted on 9/5/21

comment by DeadKneeKing (U11802)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 12 hours, 50 minutes ago
I genuinely don’t understand Spurs. Levy puts financial restraints on the first team in terms of spending (and wages), displaying a keen intent to make sure the books are balanced, yet takes out a long term finance deal to build a fantastic stadium, while effectively creating a squad that aren’t good enough to play in it.

He then hires very good managers who have either a proven track record, or indeed do very well and prove themselves at Spurs, but then at the first sign of trouble Levy sacks them off. This was especially the case in regards to Poch.

Spurs are a big club, yet they have owners who only act big time off the field. When it comes to on the field - THE primary and most important aspect of being a football club, the owners come across as incredibly inept.

That it has been 60 years since Spurs won the last of their two league titles is intriguing. Spurs are not a proven league winning team. They are a cup team - where they have enjoyed much more success.

To be honest, I don’t even think the owners know what Spurs are about or indeed capable of. At best a top four club - at best. Either the owners have ideas above their station (which, given the reasons why they have sacked managers, seems probable), or they are not ambitious enough (which makes a mockery of the reasons why they have sacked managers).
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Quite possibly the best post I have seen on our board this season. I haven’t even read the whole article yet, but no doubt you’ll be harangued as a ‘money bags’ City fan who shouldn’t have an opinion....
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Problem is Ripley until ENIC sell up we will always be known as the Amir Khan of football. Nice team, wil play good football but can't take a punch for shat.

posted on 9/5/21

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 13 hours, 1 minute ago
Good grief

Sandy, let me try again...

This thread is not about City.

My comment is not about City.

This thread is about Spurs.

My comment is about Spurs.

Do you understand?
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Well if it isn`t about City, why are you even commenting. What have Spurs problems got to do with a City fan?

I don`t go on the Sheffield United board saying they have problems. Why would I?

posted on 9/5/21

👆no, you do it on the Liverpool board instead you buffoon.

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